Steve Hayes
2013-10-30 06:17:12 UTC
The first book of Kerouac's I read was "The Dharma bums". I was turned on to
him by an Anglican monk - you can read about him and what he said about
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/pilgrims.htm
It was a marvellously romantic story, and I've since reread it several times.
At the time I first read it it was banned in South Africa.
Why's that?him by an Anglican monk - you can read about him and what he said about
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/pilgrims.htm
It was a marvellously romantic story, and I've since reread it several times.
At the time I first read it it was banned in South Africa.
http://www.khanya.org.za/pilgrims.htm
I then tried to read "On the road", and was disappointed. The first time I got
about halfway through and gave up. I only read it properly many years later,
and read it at the same tome as "Off the road", which helped me to make sense
of it.
Wow, thats too bad. If I'd have read "Off the Road" before or duringabout halfway through and gave up. I only read it properly many years later,
and read it at the same tome as "Off the road", which helped me to make sense
of it.
OTR, Id have never read anymore Beat Literature. Sorry, but "Off the
Road", realistic or not, is *not* Beat [which is a *literary* move-
ment above all else] & is a false representation of the spirit &
intensity of the personalities & passions involved. If you need "Off
the Road" to make "sense of" OTR, then youre missing something. Youre
not getting "IT".
I suppose that in part it was because Gary Snyder was a much more interesting
role model to me than Neal Cassady, and seems to have had a better influence
on Jack Kerouac, who seems to have been very dependent on such role models.
I fail to see how you could propose that Snyder was a "better" in-role model to me than Neal Cassady, and seems to have had a better influence
on Jack Kerouac, who seems to have been very dependent on such role models.
fluence than Cassady. They both inspired him. Its absurd to attempt
to discern which was "better", IMO. Also, I do see Kerouac as an
observer, but I think thats only because hes the one recording the
events that Ive read. A more removed perspective would put him very
much in the middle of the Happenings, & very much an active partici-
pant.
As an aside, do you think that you find Snyder a more "interesting
role model" because you are predisposed to religious thought? I only
ask because Ive been to your website, & I couldnt help but to notice
the overwhelming Xtian overtones.
And it was reading "Off the road" that made me realise that a lot of the
romance was not really there.
LOLromance was not really there.
& you arrived at that realisation from reading the tale written by
Cassady's wife? Im sorry, I just dont think her interpretation of
events is important to the Beats in general. She was obviously going
to suffer the negative aspects of their involvement, & by that fact
only, is *not* a reliable witness.
It was just humdrum ordinary stuff written in an
axciting way.
You say that like the writing is no big deal; like its an aside.axciting way.
IMO, the writing is of the greatest importance.
In some ways I've had more interesting travels, not in a brand
new Hudson, but in a beat-up 1936 Austin 10, or a 1961 Peugeot 403 station
wagon all over rust.
When is your novel coming out?new Hudson, but in a beat-up 1936 Austin 10, or a 1961 Peugeot 403 station
wagon all over rust.
Until I read "Off the road" I thought I was a superannuated wannabe beatnik.
After reading it I upgraded myself to a superannuated hasbeen beatnik.
Lots of people have "interesting travels". I guess I just dont seeAfter reading it I upgraded myself to a superannuated hasbeen beatnik.
the interest that you have in the Beats if you feel that they are
the sum total of nothing but what youve already experienced, seen,
accomplished, etc.
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Steve Hayes
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Steve Hayes
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http://www.goodreads.com/hayesstw
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