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Allen Ginsberg: "something other than...?"
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Will Dockery
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Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.

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2011-12-22 19:18:15 UTC
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Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
--
Shadowville All-Stars 2012:http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery
The primary purpose of Peter's post was to portray poetical
polemicist, implausible as that may sound.
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2011-12-23 00:17:50 UTC
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Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
--
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery
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The primary purpose of Peter's post was to portray poetical
polemicist, implausible as that may sound.
We know all about polecats down here in hicksville...

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2011-12-23 01:05:39 UTC
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Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
--
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery
Post by Hieronymous707
The primary purpose of Peter's post was to portray poetical
polemicist, implausible as that may sound.
We know all about polecats down here in hicksville...
--
Stopwatch (Time Demands) Vocals: Will Dockery & Mia Giannini - Early
prototype version from Shadowville All-Stars December 2011 sessions:http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery/stopwatch-time-demands-v-1
Hitch held dual citizenship, didn't he?
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2011-12-23 02:58:35 UTC
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Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
--
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery
Post by Hieronymous707
The primary purpose of Peter's post was to portray poetical
polemicist, implausible as that may sound.
We know all about polecats down here in hicksville...
--
Stopwatch (Time Demands) Vocals: Will Dockery & Mia Giannini - Early
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery/stopwatch-time-demands-v-1
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Hitch held dual citizenship, didn't he?
Alfred?
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2011-12-23 09:45:42 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
--
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery
Post by Hieronymous707
The primary purpose of Peter's post was to portray poetical
polemicist, implausible as that may sound.
We know all about polecats down here in hicksville...
--
Stopwatch (Time Demands) Vocals: Will Dockery & Mia Giannini - Early
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery/stopwatch-time-demands-v-1
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Hitch held dual citizenship, didn't he?
Alfred?
LOL, no. I was referring to Chris Hitchens, Pete's hero.
Will Dockery
2011-12-23 16:38:50 UTC
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19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling
wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
--
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery
Post by Hieronymous707
The primary purpose of Peter's post was to portray poetical
polemicist, implausible as that may sound.
We know all about polecats down here in hicksville...
--
Stopwatch (Time Demands) Vocals: Will Dockery & Mia Giannini - Early
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery/stopwatch-time-demands-v-1
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Hitch held dual citizenship, didn't he?
Alfred?
LOL, no. I was referring to Chris Hitchens, Pete's hero.
I didn't expect Pete would admit to having a hero.
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2011-12-23 17:06:40 UTC
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19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling
wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
--
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery
Post by Hieronymous707
The primary purpose of Peter's post was to portray poetical
polemicist, implausible as that may sound.
We know all about polecats down here in hicksville...
--
Stopwatch (Time Demands) Vocals: Will Dockery & Mia Giannini - Early
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery/stopwatch-time-demands-v-1
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Hitch held dual citizenship, didn't he?
Alfred?
LOL, no.  I was referring to Chris Hitchens, Pete's hero.
I didn't expect Pete would admit to having a hero.
Pete has and will admit to having many heros. He won't admit to having
a hiero though. He'd rather Hignor me.
Will Dockery
2011-12-23 17:51:49 UTC
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19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling
wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
--
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery
Post by Hieronymous707
The primary purpose of Peter's post was to portray poetical
polemicist, implausible as that may sound.
We know all about polecats down here in hicksville...
--
Stopwatch (Time Demands) Vocals: Will Dockery & Mia Giannini - Early
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery/stopwatch-time-demands-v-1
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Hitch held dual citizenship, didn't he?
Alfred?
LOL, no. I was referring to Chris Hitchens, Pete's hero.
I didn't expect Pete would admit to having a hero.
Pete has and will admit to having many heros. He won't admit to having
a hiero though. He'd rather Hignor me.

// Well, sibce you put it that wasy, okay...
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2011-12-23 23:32:29 UTC
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Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling
wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
--
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery
Post by Hieronymous707
The primary purpose of Peter's post was to portray poetical
polemicist, implausible as that may sound.
We know all about polecats down here in hicksville...
--
Stopwatch (Time Demands) Vocals: Will Dockery & Mia Giannini - Early
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery/stopwatch-time-demands-v-1
Post by Hieronymous707
Hitch held dual citizenship, didn't he?
Alfred?
LOL, no.  I was referring to Chris Hitchens, Pete's hero.
I didn't expect Pete would admit to having a hero.
Pete has and will admit to having many heros. He won't admit to having
a hiero though.  He'd rather Hignor me.
If he did any of that I suppose I didn't notice...
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2011-12-23 23:58:44 UTC
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Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling
wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
--
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery
Post by Hieronymous707
The primary purpose of Peter's post was to portray poetical
polemicist, implausible as that may sound.
We know all about polecats down here in hicksville...
--
Stopwatch (Time Demands) Vocals: Will Dockery & Mia Giannini - Early
http://soundcloud.com/will-dockery/stopwatch-time-demands-v-1
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Hitch held dual citizenship, didn't he?
Alfred?
LOL, no.  I was referring to Chris Hitchens, Pete's hero.
I didn't expect Pete would admit to having a hero.
Pete has and will admit to having many heros. He won't admit to having
a hiero though.  He'd rather Hignor me.
If he did any of that I suppose I didn't notice...
LOL.
Will Dockery
2012-01-01 15:34:31 UTC
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Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Pete can answer that one, but it would be overstating to say that
Ginsberg was "universally" admired.   Anyone in America who speaks
too much truth will be closer to universally hated than univerally admired,
which is why poets should not care about being admired.
It might seem strange, but "Howl" seemed to me excessively
negative and a tad degenerate.
I will always give the man some respect as a poet, though,
 because his heart seemed to be in the right place, most of the time,
such as his criticisms of Reagan, CIA, and American foreign policy.
Also, when I first started quoting some references to him, it
was not because I was "fan".  I had not read "Howl", at the time.
I noticed a strange thing, that when I Googled instinctively
for odd word combinations like "railroad religion", his name
just kept coming up.
I would not approve of rambling that really, only WAS rambling,
only pretending to mean something.    I suspect that the
Merry Pranksters interests in things "paranormal" were not
merely frivolous, and that Ginsberg's ramblings actually were
sometimes touching a deeper vein.
Tom Keske
Ken Kesey, Allen Ginsberg, Jerry Garcia - CIA MK-ULTRA Medical ...
Jul 18, 2009 ... Ken Kesey, while a Wallace Stegner Fellow at Stanford
University (1959-1961),
offered himself as a human guinea pig in an MK-ULTRA ...
ce399.typepad.com/.../ken-kesey-allen-ginsberg-jerry-garcia-cia-mkultra-med­ical-guinea-pigs.html
Illuminated Poems - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Eric Drooker - 2006 - 144 pages
... I don't like the Top-bananas that're robbing Guatemala banks blind I
don't
... Anarchists screaming Love Is Free I don't like the CIA they killed John
...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1560259345
The letters of Allen Ginsberg - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Bill Morgan - 2008 - 468 pages
10% of Indian population in Guatemala has been genocided by government
troops.
... As ever, Allen Ginsberg [Ginsberg's relationship with Orlovsky was ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0306814633
Allen Ginsberg, for 40 years or more knew the score & had the poetics
to back that up.

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2012-01-01 16:36:32 UTC
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Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Pete can answer that one, but it would be overstating to say that
Ginsberg was "universally" admired.   Anyone in America who speaks
too much truth will be closer to universally hated than univerally admired,
which is why poets should not care about being admired.
It might seem strange, but "Howl" seemed to me excessively
negative and a tad degenerate.
I will always give the man some respect as a poet, though,
 because his heart seemed to be in the right place, most of the time,
such as his criticisms of Reagan, CIA, and American foreign policy.
Also, when I first started quoting some references to him, it
was not because I was "fan".  I had not read "Howl", at the time.
I noticed a strange thing, that when I Googled instinctively
for odd word combinations like "railroad religion", his name
just kept coming up.
I would not approve of rambling that really, only WAS rambling,
only pretending to mean something.    I suspect that the
Merry Pranksters interests in things "paranormal" were not
merely frivolous, and that Ginsberg's ramblings actually were
sometimes touching a deeper vein.
Tom Keske
Ken Kesey, Allen Ginsberg, Jerry Garcia - CIA MK-ULTRA Medical ...
Jul 18, 2009 ... Ken Kesey, while a Wallace Stegner Fellow at Stanford
University (1959-1961),
offered himself as a human guinea pig in an MK-ULTRA ...
ce399.typepad.com/.../ken-kesey-allen-ginsberg-jerry-garcia-cia-mkultra-med­­ical-guinea-pigs.html
Illuminated Poems - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Eric Drooker - 2006 - 144 pages
... I don't like the Top-bananas that're robbing Guatemala banks blind I
don't
... Anarchists screaming Love Is Free I don't like the CIA they killed John
...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1560259345
The letters of Allen Ginsberg - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Bill Morgan - 2008 - 468 pages
10% of Indian population in Guatemala has been genocided by government
troops.
... As ever, Allen Ginsberg [Ginsberg's relationship with Orlovsky was ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0306814633
Allen Ginsberg, for 40 years or more knew the score & had the poetics
to back that up.
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That doesn't even make sense, Will. God, get a frickin' dictionary.
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2012-01-01 21:50:16 UTC
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Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Pete can answer that one, but it would be overstating to say that
Ginsberg was "universally" admired.   Anyone in America who speaks
too much truth will be closer to universally hated than univerally admired,
which is why poets should not care about being admired.
It might seem strange, but "Howl" seemed to me excessively
negative and a tad degenerate.
I will always give the man some respect as a poet, though,
 because his heart seemed to be in the right place, most of the time,
such as his criticisms of Reagan, CIA, and American foreign policy.
Also, when I first started quoting some references to him, it
was not because I was "fan".  I had not read "Howl", at the time.
I noticed a strange thing, that when I Googled instinctively
for odd word combinations like "railroad religion", his name
just kept coming up.
I would not approve of rambling that really, only WAS rambling,
only pretending to mean something.    I suspect that the
Merry Pranksters interests in things "paranormal" were not
merely frivolous, and that Ginsberg's ramblings actually were
sometimes touching a deeper vein.
Tom Keske
Ken Kesey, Allen Ginsberg, Jerry Garcia - CIA MK-ULTRA Medical ...
Jul 18, 2009 ... Ken Kesey, while a Wallace Stegner Fellow at Stanford
University (1959-1961),
offered himself as a human guinea pig in an MK-ULTRA ...
ce399.typepad.com/.../ken-kesey-allen-ginsberg-jerry-garcia-cia-mkultra-med­­­ical-guinea-pigs.html
Illuminated Poems - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Eric Drooker - 2006 - 144 pages
... I don't like the Top-bananas that're robbing Guatemala banks blind I
don't
... Anarchists screaming Love Is Free I don't like the CIA they killed John
...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1560259345
The letters of Allen Ginsberg - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Bill Morgan - 2008 - 468 pages
10% of Indian population in Guatemala has been genocided by government
troops.
... As ever, Allen Ginsberg [Ginsberg's relationship with Orlovsky was ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0306814633
Allen Ginsberg, for 40 years or more knew the score & had the poetics
to back that up.
That doesn't even make sense
Sure it does, must be another flaw of yours causing a comprehension
problem, eh.

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In A Dream I Saved You / Will Dockery & T.O.T.M. (Theatre of the
Mind):
http://youtu.be/ZGUZmzvqRP4
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2012-01-01 22:03:54 UTC
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Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Pete can answer that one, but it would be overstating to say that
Ginsberg was "universally" admired.   Anyone in America who speaks
too much truth will be closer to universally hated than univerally admired,
which is why poets should not care about being admired.
It might seem strange, but "Howl" seemed to me excessively
negative and a tad degenerate.
I will always give the man some respect as a poet, though,
 because his heart seemed to be in the right place, most of the time,
such as his criticisms of Reagan, CIA, and American foreign policy.
Also, when I first started quoting some references to him, it
was not because I was "fan".  I had not read "Howl", at the time.
I noticed a strange thing, that when I Googled instinctively
for odd word combinations like "railroad religion", his name
just kept coming up.
I would not approve of rambling that really, only WAS rambling,
only pretending to mean something.    I suspect that the
Merry Pranksters interests in things "paranormal" were not
merely frivolous, and that Ginsberg's ramblings actually were
sometimes touching a deeper vein.
Tom Keske
Ken Kesey, Allen Ginsberg, Jerry Garcia - CIA MK-ULTRA Medical ...
Jul 18, 2009 ... Ken Kesey, while a Wallace Stegner Fellow at Stanford
University (1959-1961),
offered himself as a human guinea pig in an MK-ULTRA ...
ce399.typepad.com/.../ken-kesey-allen-ginsberg-jerry-garcia-cia-mkultra-med ­­­ical-guinea-pigs.html
Illuminated Poems - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Eric Drooker - 2006 - 144 pages
... I don't like the Top-bananas that're robbing Guatemala banks blind I
don't
... Anarchists screaming Love Is Free I don't like the CIA they killed John
...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1560259345
The letters of Allen Ginsberg - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Bill Morgan - 2008 - 468 pages
10% of Indian population in Guatemala has been genocided by government
troops.
... As ever, Allen Ginsberg [Ginsberg's relationship with Orlovsky was ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0306814633
Allen Ginsberg, for 40 years or more knew the score & had the poetics
to back that up.
That doesn't even make sense
Sure it does, must be another flaw of yours causing a comprehension
problem, eh.
--
In A Dream I Saved You / Will Dockery & T.O.T.M. (Theatre of the
http://youtu.be/ZGUZmzvqRP4
Ginsberg never knew the score. In fact, he took great pride in not
know the score. You don't know Ginsberg at all. Poetics aren't a
possession. One cannot 'have' the poetics to do anything, therefore
Ginsberg never had the poetics to back 'it', up. Whatever it is.
Will Dockery
2012-01-01 22:31:17 UTC
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Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Pete can answer that one, but it would be overstating to say that
Ginsberg was "universally" admired.   Anyone in America who speaks
too much truth will be closer to universally hated than univerally admired,
which is why poets should not care about being admired.
It might seem strange, but "Howl" seemed to me excessively
negative and a tad degenerate.
I will always give the man some respect as a poet, though,
 because his heart seemed to be in the right place, most of the time,
such as his criticisms of Reagan, CIA, and American foreign policy.
Also, when I first started quoting some references to him, it
was not because I was "fan".  I had not read "Howl", at the time.
I noticed a strange thing, that when I Googled instinctively
for odd word combinations like "railroad religion", his name
just kept coming up.
I would not approve of rambling that really, only WAS rambling,
only pretending to mean something.    I suspect that the
Merry Pranksters interests in things "paranormal" were not
merely frivolous, and that Ginsberg's ramblings actually were
sometimes touching a deeper vein.
Tom Keske
Ken Kesey, Allen Ginsberg, Jerry Garcia - CIA MK-ULTRA Medical ...
Jul 18, 2009 ... Ken Kesey, while a Wallace Stegner Fellow at Stanford
University (1959-1961),
offered himself as a human guinea pig in an MK-ULTRA ...
ce399.typepad.com/.../ken-kesey-allen-ginsberg-jerry-garcia-cia-mkultra-med ­­­ical-guinea-pigs.html
Illuminated Poems - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Eric Drooker - 2006 - 144 pages
... I don't like the Top-bananas that're robbing Guatemala banks blind I
don't
... Anarchists screaming Love Is Free I don't like the CIA they killed John
...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1560259345
The letters of Allen Ginsberg - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Bill Morgan - 2008 - 468 pages
10% of Indian population in Guatemala has been genocided by government
troops.
... As ever, Allen Ginsberg [Ginsberg's relationship with Orlovsky was ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0306814633
Allen Ginsberg, for 40 years or more knew the score & had the poetics
to back that up.
<snip for focus>
Ginsberg never knew the score.  In fact, he took great pride in not
know the score. You don't know Ginsberg at all.  Poetics aren't a
possession.  One cannot 'have' the poetics to do anything, therefore
Ginsberg never had the poetics to back 'it', up.  Whatever it is.
I'm very familiar with the life and works of Allen Ginsberg, and have
been for close to 40 years now.

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In A Dream I Saved You / Will Dockery & T.O.T.M. (Theatre of the
Mind):
http://youtu.be/ZGUZmzvqRP4
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2012-01-01 22:36:57 UTC
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Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Pete can answer that one, but it would be overstating to say that
Ginsberg was "universally" admired.   Anyone in America who speaks
too much truth will be closer to universally hated than univerally admired,
which is why poets should not care about being admired.
It might seem strange, but "Howl" seemed to me excessively
negative and a tad degenerate.
I will always give the man some respect as a poet, though,
 because his heart seemed to be in the right place, most of the time,
such as his criticisms of Reagan, CIA, and American foreign policy.
Also, when I first started quoting some references to him, it
was not because I was "fan".  I had not read "Howl", at the time.
I noticed a strange thing, that when I Googled instinctively
for odd word combinations like "railroad religion", his name
just kept coming up.
I would not approve of rambling that really, only WAS rambling,
only pretending to mean something.    I suspect that the
Merry Pranksters interests in things "paranormal" were not
merely frivolous, and that Ginsberg's ramblings actually were
sometimes touching a deeper vein.
Tom Keske
Ken Kesey, Allen Ginsberg, Jerry Garcia - CIA MK-ULTRA Medical ...
Jul 18, 2009 ... Ken Kesey, while a Wallace Stegner Fellow at Stanford
University (1959-1961),
offered himself as a human guinea pig in an MK-ULTRA ...
ce399.typepad.com/.../ken-kesey-allen-ginsberg-jerry-garcia-cia-mkultra-med ­­­ical-guinea-pigs.html
Illuminated Poems - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Eric Drooker - 2006 - 144 pages
... I don't like the Top-bananas that're robbing Guatemala banks blind I
don't
... Anarchists screaming Love Is Free I don't like the CIA they killed John
...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1560259345
The letters of Allen Ginsberg - Google Books Result
Allen Ginsberg, Bill Morgan - 2008 - 468 pages
10% of Indian population in Guatemala has been genocided by government
troops.
... As ever, Allen Ginsberg [Ginsberg's relationship with Orlovsky was ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0306814633
Allen Ginsberg, for 40 years or more knew the score & had the poetics
to back that up.
<snip for focus>
Ginsberg never knew the score.  In fact, he took great pride in not
know the score. You don't know Ginsberg at all.  Poetics aren't a
possession.  One cannot 'have' the poetics to do anything, therefore
Ginsberg never had the poetics to back 'it', up.  Whatever it is.
I'm very familiar with the life and works of Allen Ginsberg, and have
been for close to 40 years now.
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Talk talk talk. You're not even familiar with the definitions of
words you use to describe Ginsberg. You do not know Ginsberg. LOL.
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You do not know Ginsberg. LOL.
No, but I did meet Truman Capote near the Atlanta Greyhound station in
1980... or someone pretending to be him.

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You do not know Ginsberg. LOL.
No, but I did meet Truman Capote near the Atlanta Greyhound station in
1980... or someone pretending to be him.
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Here, let me point out yet another pointless Dockery post. LOL.
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Ginsberg never knew the score. In fact, he took great pride in not
know the score. You don't know Ginsberg at all. Poetics aren't a
possession. One cannot 'have' the poetics to do anything, therefore
Ginsberg never had the poetics to back 'it', up. Whatever it is.
So what IS the score?
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Ginsberg never knew the score.  In fact, he took great pride in not
know the score. You don't know Ginsberg at all.  Poetics aren't a
possession.  One cannot 'have' the poetics to do anything, therefore
Ginsberg never had the poetics to back 'it', up.  Whatever it is.
So what IS the score?
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LOL. It's music to my ears, Steve.
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Ginsberg never knew the score.  In fact, he took great pride in not
know the score. You don't know Ginsberg at all.  Poetics aren't a
possession.  One cannot 'have' the poetics to do anything, therefore
Ginsberg never had the poetics to back 'it', up.  Whatever it is.
So what IS the score?
LOL. It's music to my ears, Steve.
Well your sight reading's better than mine.
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Post by Hieronymous707
Post by Steve Hayes
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 14:03:54 -0800 (PST), Hieronymous707
Ginsberg never knew the score. �In fact, he took great pride in not
know the score. You don't know Ginsberg at all. �Poetics aren't a
possession. �One cannot 'have' the poetics to do anything, therefore
Ginsberg never had the poetics to back 'it', up. �Whatever it is.
So what IS the score?
LOL. It's music to my ears, Steve.
Well your sight reading's better than mine.
LOL. Well I do read better with my eyes, but I'm sure you can still
put two and two together.
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Tom Keske
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"Allen Ginsberg, for 40 years or more knew the score & had the poetics
to back that up.

Mostly I agree with that. I approve of his political leanings.
He show some knowledge of things like CIA misdeeds abroad
that were the kind of thing mostly censored by U.S. media and
only fully understood by persons who were paying enough
independent attention.

I don't approve of the drug use of his troop.

He claimed to be supporting NAMBLA as a "free speech"
issue. If he had ever once been a molestor, I don't have the slightest
doubt that he would have been targeted and arrested.

However, for the record, I am not sympathetic of his pro-NAMBLA
propaganda, either. There would be a lot of political prisoners around
the world more deserving of any energies related to freedom of speech.

I had a Michael Jackson vinyl record that I once broke to pieces
over all the allegations.

I think that there should be an age of consent, above the line is legal,
below the line is criminal. Current law is probably not too
far off-target, same as abortion law (generally, 1st trimester).

Like abortion, it is not possibly to have
a philosophically perfect solution. A legal standard will
by necessity be somewhat arbitrary, but a standard of
some kind is needed, in any case.

I wouldn't care if that line were set at 18 or 21, much less 16.
A 30 year-old seems like a baby, to me.

To avoid "Romeo and Juliet" scenarios, could for
legal purposes make an age window for consent-say,
10 year or more age difference would be illegal, above
some minimum and below some maximum age.

Something on that order could possibly criminalize some
right-wing Republican pro-family moralists and their
too-young trophy wives.

I would probably prefer though just to heap social
condemnation on the GOP serial-marriage cads,
rather than actually criminalize them, in a concession
to freedom ;-)


Tom Keske
Fred Hall
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"Allen Ginsberg, for 40 years or more knew the score & had the poetics
to back that up.
Mostly I agree with that. I approve of his political leanings.
He show some knowledge of things like CIA misdeeds abroad
that were the kind of thing mostly censored by U.S. media and
only fully understood by persons who were paying enough
independent attention.
I don't approve of the drug use of his troop.
He claimed to be supporting NAMBLA as a "free speech"
issue. If he had ever once been a molestor, I don't have the slightest
doubt that he would have been targeted and arrested.
However, for the record, I am not sympathetic of his pro-NAMBLA
propaganda, either. There would be a lot of political prisoners around
the world more deserving of any energies related to freedom of speech.
I had a Michael Jackson vinyl record that I once broke to pieces
over all the allegations.
I think that there should be an age of consent, above the line is legal,
below the line is criminal. Current law is probably not too
far off-target, same as abortion law (generally, 1st trimester).
Like abortion, it is not possibly to have
a philosophically perfect solution. A legal standard will
by necessity be somewhat arbitrary, but a standard of
some kind is needed, in any case.
I wouldn't care if that line were set at 18 or 21, much less 16.
A 30 year-old seems like a baby, to me.
To avoid "Romeo and Juliet" scenarios, could for
legal purposes make an age window for consent-say,
10 year or more age difference would be illegal, above
some minimum and below some maximum age.
Something on that order could possibly criminalize some
right-wing Republican pro-family moralists and their
too-young trophy wives.
I would probably prefer though just to heap social
condemnation on the GOP serial-marriage cads,
rather than actually criminalize them, in a concession
to freedom ;-)
Tom Keske
Ginsberg was a confessed Homosexual and Homosexuals are far more lax
in age requirements for their sexual rendezvouses than Hetero's are to
start with. He joined N.A.M.B.L.A. and commented that Pedophilia being
illegal was 'ridiculous'. If it quacks like a duck and waddles like a
duck likely it is a duck however in this case when nobody's looking.
Fred Hall
2012-01-02 15:39:31 UTC
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<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.

''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."

Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.
Hieronymous707
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<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL. You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
Call Reuters and the Associated Press! I heard Plato diddled little
boys too, but I don't have any proof. Let's burn their books, just in
case. We sure don't want anybody getting the wrong ideas.
Fred Hall
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Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL. You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
Call Reuters and the Associated Press! I heard Plato diddled little
boys too, but I don't have any proof. Let's burn their books, just in
case. We sure don't want anybody getting the wrong ideas.
My frogger does a pretty good imitation of me, don't you think? LOL

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2012-01-02 17:42:56 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
Call Reuters and the Associated Press!  I heard Plato diddled little
boys too, but I don't have any proof.  Let's burn their books, just in
case.  We sure don't want anybody getting the wrong ideas.
My frogger does a pretty good imitation of me, don't you think?  LOL
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Doesn't matter. It's all about me anyway. LOL
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
Call Reuters and the Associated Press!  I heard Plato diddled little
boys too, but I don't have any proof.  Let's burn their books, just in
case.  We sure don't want anybody getting the wrong ideas.
My frogger does a pretty good imitation of me, don't you think?  LOL
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Doesn't matter. It's all about me anyway. LOL
Always has been. LOL

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Hieronymous707 wrote on 1/2/2012 in
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Hieronymous707 wrote on 1/2/2012 in
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL. You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
Call Reuters and the Associated Press! I heard Plato diddled little
boys too, but I don't have any proof. Let's burn their books, just in
case. We sure don't want anybody getting the wrong ideas.
My frogger does a pretty good imitation of me, don't you think? LOL
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Doesn't matter.  It's all about me anyway.  LOL
Always has been.  LOL
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Oh, I know. I just wasn't sure you knew, and didn't want to presume.
Some people get all upset when they find out it's not about them. I'm
sure not here to hurt anybody's feelings. LOL
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iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling
wankers who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy
Love Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero
respect and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL. You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
Call Reuters and the Associated Press! I heard Plato diddled little
boys too, but I don't have any proof. Let's burn their books, just in
case. We sure don't want anybody getting the wrong ideas.
My frogger does a pretty good imitation of me, don't you think? LOL
--- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Doesn't matter.  It's all about me anyway.  LOL
Always has been.  LOL
--- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh, I know. I just wasn't sure you knew, and didn't want to presume.
Some people get all upset when they find out it's not about them. I'm
sure not here to hurt anybody's feelings. LOL
LOL

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<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL. You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS" it raises a huge
red flag with most of us. He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.

''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."
http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty

''Ginsberg was an active pederast''
http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activist-walk-into-a-room/

Webster sez:

Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...


It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
Post by Hieronymous707
Call Reuters and the Associated Press!
They already know how depraved he/it was....
Post by Hieronymous707
I heard Plato diddled little
boys too, but I don't have any proof. Let's burn their books, just in
case. We sure don't want anybody getting the wrong ideas.
We have the RIGHT idea about YOU, Hieronymous Sandusky...

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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay. That fine with me. Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view. I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that? Or
are you saying that anybody who doesn't turn their blind eye where you
turn your blind eye must be an advocate of whatever it is you don't
know anything about because you ain't never seen it, and don't even
want to because you turned your blind eye to it?
Ace♠
2012-01-02 22:40:34 UTC
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Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay. That fine with me. Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view. I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.

A*
Post by Hieronymous707
are you saying that anybody who doesn't turn their blind eye where you
turn your blind eye must be an advocate of whatever it is you don't
know anything about because you ain't never seen it, and don't even
want to because you turned your blind eye to it?
Hieronymous707
2012-01-02 23:35:38 UTC
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Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money. I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit. I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform. It's a controversial subject. The feds know who I am. I
know lots of feds too. Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman. He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue. We're talking, honestly, about real concerns. If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly. Thank
you for your time.
Mephistopheles
2012-01-03 01:48:12 UTC
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Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money. I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject. The feds know who I am. I
know lots of feds too. Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman. He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue. We're talking, honestly, about real concerns. If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
Hieronymous707
2012-01-03 02:02:21 UTC
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Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real concerns.  If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet. I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms. I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
long as it doesn't interfere with their work. I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns. Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
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On Jan 2, 1:36 pm, Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real concerns.  If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
others:

Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?

''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
Post by Hieronymous707
I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......

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of being outed as a convicted offender to usenet.
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real concerns.  If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available at http://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
Fred Hall
2012-01-03 16:00:25 UTC
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Post by Hieronymous707
On Jan 2, 1:36 pm, Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
On Jan 2, 10:39 am, Fred Hall
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011
19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like
this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic
doggerel-scribbling wankers who think Allen Ginsberg
was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired &
respected American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted,
unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American
Man-Boy Love Association. He was a child molesting monster
deserving zero respect and is definitely not universally
admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested
children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label
pedophilia {ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"
 it raises a huge red flag with most of us.  He's surely not
somebody you would let babysit your preteen son to say the
least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin,
Larry Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule,
Michael Kearns, and Michel Foucault have all written in favor
of either NAMBLA or man- boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom
many consider the founder of the American homosexual movement,
invited NAMBLA members to march with him in the 1993 "March on
Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched in the 1986 Los
Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the words
"NAMBLA walks with
me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active
pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-po
litical-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic
\ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. — ped·er·as·ty
\ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing
little boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and
belonged to NAMBLA is enough to denounce him for his sick,
flawed, perverted character and turn a blind eye to anything he
spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking
at in your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows
about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He
doesn't share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've
established a dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real
concerns.  If you have any real concerns in my regards, or about my
personal character, please state them outright so that I can address
them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available at http://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
Bobby is a vet also, so I'm sure he appreciates your post. LOL.

A real vet, not a PedalChuck sort of vet
--
Hieronymous707
2012-01-03 16:56:25 UTC
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Hieronymous707 wrote on 1/3/2012 in
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Post by Hieronymous707
Post by Ace♠
Post by Hieronymous707
On Jan 2, 1:36 pm, Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
On Jan 2, 10:39 am, Fred Hall
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011
19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like
this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic
doggerel-scribbling wankers who think Allen Ginsberg
was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired &
respected American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted,
unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American
Man-Boy Love Association. He was a child molesting monster
deserving zero respect and is definitely not universally
admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested
children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label
pedophilia {ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"
 it raises a huge red flag with most of us.  He's surely not
somebody you would let babysit your preteen son to say the
least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin,
Larry Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule,
Michael Kearns, and Michel Foucault have all written in favor
of either NAMBLA or man- boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom
many consider the founder of the American homosexual movement,
invited NAMBLA members to march with him in the 1993 "March on
Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched in the 1986 Los
Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the words
"NAMBLA walks with
me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active
pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-po
litical-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic
\ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. — ped·er·as·ty
\ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing
little boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and
belonged to NAMBLA is enough to denounce him for his sick,
flawed, perverted character and turn a blind eye to anything he
spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking
at in your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows
about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He
doesn't share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've
established a dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real
concerns.  If you have any real concerns in my regards, or about my
personal character, please state them outright so that I can address
them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
Bobby is a vet also, so I'm sure he appreciates your post. LOL.
A real vet, not a PedalChuck sort of vet
--- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
My company is BeauseantWorks, Inc. We're brand new and still working
on 501(c)3 status. We help veterans acquire and apply skills for
successful new civilian careers. Our pilot program in the events
services industry trains veterans as exhibit technicians, and provides
tradeshow exhibit installation & removal labor to the Baltimore and
Washington DC metropolitan areas. Historically, the Beauseant was an
identifying banner carried into battle as a rallying point. The word
beauseant itself combines two French words: ‘beau’, meaning glorious,
and ‘seant’, meaning to become. Thus, “Beau seant!” or “Be glorious!”
became both greeting and battle cry for warrior knights of the Middle
Ages. The mission of BeauseantWorks is to be that guidon for present
day veterans returning with wounds of both body and spirit by
retraining and retasking them to civilian employment.

BeauseantWorks recruits veteran staff through cooperative referral
from local Union members and officials. We enlist new hire veteran
employees through the VA Transitional Services Office whose expertise
is specifically with assisting disabled active duty members transition
to gainful employment. Training is conducted in classroom settings
and on-the-job in practical application at various tradeshow sites.
The essence of BeauseantWorks is that it is self-funded, and revenues
are generated by providing labor services to support, sustain, and
grow the company. Charitable nonprofit status affords a competitive
advantage over other service providers, and ensures that revenues
inure entirely to the benefit of veterans; provides financial
incentive for business and industry to support an otherwise self-
sufficient training and employment program for veterans, and makes
BeauseantWorks eligible for state and federal grants and disability
employment contract set-asides. Given the current economic and
political climate, targeting segments of the market that are
government agencies, and private companies who exhibit to government
agencies at tradeshows could establish and sustain a significant
industry profile.

In terms of management, I'm a Marine Corps veteran with more than
twenty-five years comprehensive operational experience in the
tradeshow industry; a former Vice President of UBC Local 491, the
Union which performs tradeshow labor in the Baltimore/Washington DC
area; and former City Manager for Sho-Link, Inc. a prominent national
exhibitor appointed contracting company. My Deputy is a former Navy
Corpsman, and the current Transitional Services Officer of Military
Affairs at Walter Reed Hospital in Bethesda, Maryland.

I just had an idea, and wanted to see how far it could go. So far, so
good.
Fred Hall
2012-01-03 17:12:52 UTC
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Hieronymous707 wrote on 1/3/2012 in
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Post by Fred Hall
Hieronymous707 wrote on 1/3/2012 in
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Post by Hieronymous707
Post by Ace♠
Post by Hieronymous707
On Jan 2, 1:36 pm, Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
On Jan 2, 10:39 am, Fred Hall
Post by Fred Hall
On Dec 21, 3:36 pm, Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011
19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like
this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic
doggerel-scribbling wankers who think Allen Ginsberg
was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired &
respected American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted,
unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American
Man-Boy Love Association. He was a child molesting
monster deserving zero respect and is definitely not
universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested
children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label
pedophilia {ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"
 it raises a huge red flag with most of us.  He's surely
not somebody you would let babysit your preteen son to say
the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle
Rubin, Larry Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane
Rule, Michael Kearns, and Michel Foucault have all written
in favor of either NAMBLA or man- boy relationships. Harry
Hay, whom many consider the founder of the American
homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with
him in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He
also marched in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a
shirt emblazoned with the words "NAMBLA walks with
me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active
pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-
a-po litical-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic
\ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. — ped·er·as·ty
\ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing
little boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and
belonged to NAMBLA is enough to denounce him for his sick,
flawed, perverted character and turn a blind eye to
anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your
blind eye whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not
worth looking at in your view.  I'll just read what I wants
to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's
somebody around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a
public person. I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He
doesn't share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've
established a dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real
concerns.  If you have any real concerns in my regards, or about
my personal character, please state them outright so that I can
address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
Bobby is a vet also, so I'm sure he appreciates your post. LOL.
A real vet, not a PedalChuck sort of vet
--- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
My company is BeauseantWorks, Inc. We're brand new and still working
on 501(c)3 status. We help veterans acquire and apply skills for
successful new civilian careers. Our pilot program in the events
services industry trains veterans as exhibit technicians, and provides
tradeshow exhibit installation & removal labor to the Baltimore and
Washington DC metropolitan areas. Historically, the Beauseant was an
identifying banner carried into battle as a rallying point. The word
beauseant itself combines two French words: ‘beau’, meaning glorious,
and ‘seant’, meaning to become. Thus, “Beau seant!” or “Be
glorious!” became both greeting and battle cry for warrior knights of the
Middle Ages. The mission of BeauseantWorks is to be that guidon for present
day veterans returning with wounds of both body and spirit by
retraining and retasking them to civilian employment.
BeauseantWorks recruits veteran staff through cooperative referral
from local Union members and officials. We enlist new hire veteran
employees through the VA Transitional Services Office whose expertise
is specifically with assisting disabled active duty members transition
to gainful employment. Training is conducted in classroom settings
and on-the-job in practical application at various tradeshow sites.
The essence of BeauseantWorks is that it is self-funded, and revenues
are generated by providing labor services to support, sustain, and
grow the company. Charitable nonprofit status affords a competitive
advantage over other service providers, and ensures that revenues
inure entirely to the benefit of veterans; provides financial
incentive for business and industry to support an otherwise self-
sufficient training and employment program for veterans, and makes
BeauseantWorks eligible for state and federal grants and disability
employment contract set-asides. Given the current economic and
political climate, targeting segments of the market that are
government agencies, and private companies who exhibit to government
agencies at tradeshows could establish and sustain a significant
industry profile.
In terms of management, I'm a Marine Corps veteran with more than
twenty-five years comprehensive operational experience in the
tradeshow industry; a former Vice President of UBC Local 491, the
Union which performs tradeshow labor in the Baltimore/Washington DC
area; and former City Manager for Sho-Link, Inc. a prominent national
exhibitor appointed contracting company. My Deputy is a former Navy
Corpsman, and the current Transitional Services Officer of Military
Affairs at Walter Reed Hospital in Bethesda, Maryland.
I just had an idea, and wanted to see how far it could go. So far, so
good.
Certainly more productive than sitting in Jacksonville or Columbus watching the
grass grow. It's a good and useful project you're (your) involved it. JMO, of
course

--
Hieronymous707
2012-01-03 17:19:09 UTC
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Hieronymous707 wrote on 1/3/2012 in
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On Jan 2, 10:39 am, Fred Hall
Post by Fred Hall
On Dec 21, 3:36 pm, Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011
19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like
this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic
doggerel-scribbling wankers who think Allen Ginsberg
was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired &
respected American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted,
unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American
Man-Boy Love Association. He was a child molesting
monster deserving zero respect and is definitely not
universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested
children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label
pedophilia {ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"
 it raises a huge red flag with most of us.  He's surely
not somebody you would let babysit your preteen son to say
the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle
Rubin, Larry Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane
Rule, Michael Kearns, and Michel Foucault have all written
in favor of either NAMBLA or man- boy relationships. Harry
Hay, whom many consider the founder of the American
homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with
him in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He
also marched in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a
shirt emblazoned with the words "NAMBLA walks with
me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active
pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-
a-po litical-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic
\ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. — ped·er·as·ty
\ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing
little boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and
belonged to NAMBLA is enough to denounce him for his sick,
flawed, perverted character and turn a blind eye to
anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your
blind eye whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not
worth looking at in your view.  I'll just read what I wants
to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's
somebody around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a
public person.  I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He
doesn't share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've
established a dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real
concerns.  If you have any real concerns in my regards, or about
my personal character, please state them outright so that I can
address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
Bobby is a vet also, so I'm sure he appreciates your post. LOL.
A real vet, not a PedalChuck sort of vet
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My company is BeauseantWorks, Inc.  We're brand new and still working
on 501(c)3 status.  We help veterans acquire and apply skills for
successful new civilian careers.  Our pilot program in the events
services industry trains veterans as exhibit technicians, and provides
tradeshow exhibit installation & removal labor to the Baltimore and
Washington DC metropolitan areas.  Historically, the Beauseant was an
identifying banner carried into battle as a rallying point. The word
beauseant itself combines two French words: ‘beau’, meaning glorious,
and ‘seant’, meaning to become.  Thus, “Beau seant!” or “Be
glorious!” became both greeting and battle cry for warrior knights of the
Middle Ages.  The mission of BeauseantWorks is to be that guidon for present
day veterans returning with wounds of both body and spirit by
retraining and retasking them to civilian employment.
BeauseantWorks recruits veteran staff through cooperative referral
from local Union members and officials.  We enlist new hire veteran
employees through the VA Transitional Services Office whose expertise
is specifically with assisting disabled active duty members transition
to gainful employment.  Training is conducted in classroom settings
and on-the-job in practical application at various tradeshow sites.
The essence of BeauseantWorks is that it is self-funded, and revenues
are generated by providing labor services to support, sustain, and
grow the company.   Charitable nonprofit status affords a competitive
advantage over other service providers, and ensures that revenues
inure entirely to the benefit of veterans; provides financial
incentive for business and industry to support an otherwise self-
sufficient training and employment program for veterans, and makes
BeauseantWorks eligible for state and federal grants and disability
employment contract set-asides.  Given the current economic and
political climate, targeting segments of the market that are
government agencies, and private companies who exhibit to government
agencies at tradeshows could establish and sustain a significant
industry profile.
In terms of management, I'm a Marine Corps veteran with more than
twenty-five years comprehensive operational experience in the
tradeshow industry; a former Vice President of UBC Local 491, the
Union which performs tradeshow labor in the Baltimore/Washington DC
area; and former City Manager for Sho-Link, Inc. a prominent national
exhibitor appointed contracting company.   My Deputy is a former Navy
Corpsman, and the current Transitional Services Officer of Military
Affairs at Walter Reed Hospital in Bethesda, Maryland.
I just had an idea, and wanted to see how far it could go.  So far, so
good.
Certainly more productive than sitting in Jacksonville or Columbus watching the
grass grow.  It's a good and useful project you're (your) involved it.  JMO, of
course
--
Gotta do sumthin. Sure cain't dance.
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2012-01-03 23:39:06 UTC
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On Jan 2, 1:36 pm, Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real concerns.  If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available at http://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
LOL!! "POT" sponsored by NORML no doubt....

-------

"The eagles been flyin' slow, and the fags been flyin' low. And a
lotta peoples thinkin' that America is fixin' to fall"~~The Charlie
Daniels Band.

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"Blobby doesn't know about the forgeries I post and get away
with. That morbidly obese coward doesn't even begin to
suspect me"~~ "Pat Magroyne" aka Scott Salberg proves
once and for all he's a deceitful liar. <patmagroyne @null.net>
http://img98.imageshack.us/f/screenshotpatmagroynead.jpg/.
...........................................................................................
"I mean, it's not as if I'm bringing up "ass pounding" all the time,
or doing it right in front of you."~~ Deviant homosexual sodomite
Scott Allen Salberg, aka "Enos Penvy" convicted of battery in
Broward County Florida and currently running from the humiliation
of being outed as a convicted offender to usenet.
.............................................................................................
Image snap of Court and Conviction Record, Scott Salberg.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/ninety7gt/Intelius.jpg
Conclusive evidence of the countless deceptions and forgeries
perpetrated by Scott Allen Salberg:
http://img98.imageshack.us/i/screenshotpatmagroynead.jpg/
...........................................................................................
"That changed, the complaint to IC3 is sent, it was received, I got
the complaint number and password, and we have begun the process.
It is out of my hands. THEY contact the proper authorities down
here. I did make clear that I want this matter handled in Broward
County, in which county I reside. And I've already linked you to the
precedent in matters such as this. Too late. I've already sent the
complaint. I'm going through with this. I've had enough"~~ Just
another Scott Salberg ko0kso0t/meltdown from 2008 and we're
STILL waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.... <LOL~!!!>
............................................................................................

"I think we'll be seeing less of bobandcarole...at least while I'm
around"
~Scott Allen Salberg, Resident Fool & Court Jester of APH
...............................................................................................
#1 pedophile hunter: The Urban Dictionary

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bobandcarole
..........................................................................................
#5 ruiner of usenet.
.......................................................................................
Owner and trainer of Tom Evans aka "mad as a box of frogs"
Tom Evans actual picture: http://yfrog.com/5zt0mevansj
.........................................................................................
"Publicity is publicity, good or bad it's STILL publicity"~ Alice
Cooper
.........................................................................................
"Did you plug the hole yet Daddy?"~~Malia Obama
.........................................................................................
Now I know why they call him tiger, "ELDRICK TONT Woods"??
LMAO!! .
..............................................................................................
"There are 1000 or more reasons for a person INNOCENT of child
molesting to kill themselves"~ Arrested filth-monger frank mccoy
..............................................................................................
"A victory for one pornographer is a victory for all of the human
race"--pedophile "XXX"
...........................................................................................
Image snap of Court and Conviction Record, Scott Salberg.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/ninety7gt/Intelius.jpg
..........................................................................................
"I am so superior to you that you can't even see it"~ScottyFLL
aka "Enos Penvy" aka scott salberg-- <enospenvy @null.net>
violent criminal Broward County Fla.
............................................................................................
"You are not decent citizens, you are sick, degenerate filth. The
fact that you attend church regularly proves it"~W.T.S.--
<m14m @earthlink.net>
................................................................................................
"Only becasue they [bestiality and necrophilia] both ARE,
[harmless] for those who get off on that sort of thing. And what
*they* do is absolutely NONE of my busines NOR any of my concern.
NOR that of anyone else!!"~~Craig Chilton <r @z.com> showcases
why he's designated a ko0k even by those he claims to defend and
shows his ignorance in using a spell checker..
..............................................................................................

Why should I have to press one for English??? This is AMERICA .
<This space for rent>
Fred Hall
2012-01-03 23:42:59 UTC
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Post by Hieronymous707
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Post by Hieronymous707
On Jan 2, 1:36 pm, Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
On Jan 2, 10:39 am, Fred Hall
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011
19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like
this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic
doggerel-scribbling wankers who think Allen Ginsberg
was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired &
respected American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted,
unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American
Man-Boy Love Association. He was a child molesting
monster deserving zero respect and is definitely not
universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested
children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label
pedophilia {ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"
 it raises a huge red flag with most of us.  He's surely
not somebody you would let babysit your preteen son to say
the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle
Rubin, Larry Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane
Rule, Michael Kearns, and Michel Foucault have all written in
favor of either NAMBLA or man- boy relationships. Harry Hay,
whom many consider the founder of the American homosexual
movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him in the
1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned
with the words "NAMBLA walks with
me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active
pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-
political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic
\ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. — ped·er·as·ty
\ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing
little boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and
belonged to NAMBLA is enough to denounce him for his sick,
flawed, perverted character and turn a blind eye to anything
he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind
eye whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth
looking at in your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read;
hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public
person. I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He
doesn't share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've
established a dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real
concerns.  If you have any real concerns in my regards, or about
my personal character, please state them outright so that I can
address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available at http://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
LOL!! "POT" sponsored by NORML no doubt....
I tried to warn Corey
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"The eagles been flyin' slow, and the fags been flyin' low. And a
lotta peoples thinkin' that America is fixin' to fall"~~The Charlie
Daniels Band.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^|^^^^^^^ |P
Post by Hieronymous707
♥~♥ Usenet Legends bobandcarole ♥~♥ ||”"”;..\___.
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Copyright © 2011
all rights reserved
News*Justice*Social Commentary
"Bringing you the ultimate uncensored truth since 1997"
___
"Blobby doesn't know about the forgeries I post and get away
with. That morbidly obese coward doesn't even begin to
suspect me"~~ "Pat Magroyne" aka Scott Salberg proves
http://img98.imageshack.us/f/screenshotpatmagroynead.jpg/.
..............................................................................
............. "I mean, it's not as if I'm bringing up "ass pounding" all
the time, or doing it right in front of you."~~ Deviant homosexual sodomite
Scott Allen Salberg, aka "Enos Penvy" convicted of battery in
Broward County Florida and currently running from the humiliation
of being outed as a convicted offender to usenet.
..............................................................................
............... Image snap of Court and Conviction Record, Scott Salberg.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/ninety7gt/Intelius.jpg
Conclusive evidence of the countless deceptions and forgeries
http://img98.imageshack.us/i/screenshotpatmagroynead.jpg/
..............................................................................
............. "That changed, the complaint to IC3 is sent, it was received,
I got the complaint number and password, and we have begun the process.
It is out of my hands. THEY contact the proper authorities down
here. I did make clear that I want this matter handled in Broward
County, in which county I reside. And I've already linked you to the
precedent in matters such as this. Too late. I've already sent the
complaint. I'm going through with this. I've had enough"~~ Just
another Scott Salberg ko0kso0t/meltdown from 2008 and we're
STILL waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.... <LOL~!!!>
..............................................................................
..............
"I think we'll be seeing less of bobandcarole...at least while I'm
around"
~Scott Allen Salberg, Resident Fool & Court Jester of APH
..............................................................................
................. #1 pedophile hunter: The Urban Dictionary
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bobandcarole
..............................................................................
............ #5 ruiner of usenet.
..............................................................................
......... Owner and trainer of Tom Evans aka "mad as a box of frogs" Tom
Evans actual picture: http://yfrog.com/5zt0mevansj
..............................................................................
........... "Publicity is publicity, good or bad it's STILL publicity"~
Alice Cooper
..............................................................................
........... "Did you plug the hole yet Daddy?"~~Malia Obama
..............................................................................
........... Now I know why they call him tiger, "ELDRICK TONT Woods"??
LMAO!! .
..............................................................................
................ "There are 1000 or more reasons for a person INNOCENT of
child molesting to kill themselves"~ Arrested filth-monger frank mccoy
..............................................................................
................ "A victory for one pornographer is a victory for all of
the human race"--pedophile "XXX"
..............................................................................
............. Image snap of Court and Conviction Record, Scott Salberg.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/ninety7gt/Intelius.jpg
..............................................................................
............ "I am so superior to you that you can't even see it"~ScottyFLL
Broward County Fla.
..............................................................................
.............. "You are not decent citizens, you are sick, degenerate
filth. The fact that you attend church regularly proves it"~W.T.S.--
..............................................................................
.................. "Only becasue they [bestiality and necrophilia] both
ARE, [harmless] for those who get off on that sort of thing. And what *they*
do is absolutely NONE of my busines NOR any of my concern. NOR that of
even by those he claims to defend and shows his ignorance in using a spell
checker..
..............................................................................
................
Why should I have to press one for English??? This is AMERICA .
<This space for rent>
--
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On Jan 2, 10:39 am, Fred Hall
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011
19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like
this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic
doggerel-scribbling wankers who think Allen Ginsberg
was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired &
respected American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted,
unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American
Man-Boy Love Association. He was a child molesting
monster deserving zero respect and is definitely not
universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested
children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label
pedophilia {ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"
 it raises a huge red flag with most of us.  He's surely
not somebody you would let babysit your preteen son to say
the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle
Rubin, Larry Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane
Rule, Michael Kearns, and Michel Foucault have all written in
favor of either NAMBLA or man- boy relationships. Harry Hay,
whom many consider the founder of the American homosexual
movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him in the
1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned
with the words "NAMBLA walks with
me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active
pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-
political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic
\ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. — ped·er·as·ty
\ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing
little boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and
belonged to NAMBLA is enough to denounce him for his sick,
flawed, perverted character and turn a blind eye to anything
he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind
eye whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth
looking at in your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read;
hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public
person.  I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He
doesn't share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've
established a dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real
concerns.  If you have any real concerns in my regards, or about
my personal character, please state them outright so that I can
address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
LOL!!   "POT"  sponsored by NORML no doubt....
I tried to warn Corey
That's right. I think you did. Sorry, I must've been Hi, like when I
wrote this.

4:20

Look at the thyme,
and you'll know what I'm on.
Listen, this rime
isn't all that far gone.

You see, I'm the type
who is ripe for knit picking,
so though some things grow,
if your fingers are sticking,

go lick each one thick;
to the quick and the bone.
That's all. Please don't ever
call me on the phone,

because I might pause
for the cause of your calling
as if I could lift
all your spirits. I'm balling,

and falling appallingly
over myself
as if such a gift
had a place on a shelf.

Myself, as I'm speaking,
I'm seeking to find
a peaceful release
for this odd state of mind.
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On Jan 2, 1:36 pm, Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real concerns.  If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
LOL!!   "POT"  sponsored by NORML no doubt....
Picture here the dark Abyss
as if such a space could co-exist
between us, seen on screen with text
to illustrate its placement. Next
time this rhyme suggests that chasm,
think first not of dry sarcasm,
for such a well kempt hemp rope knot
can mean a lot of hope for pot,
and hope for dope-like knots might sate
that piece of mind some blind with hate
of one another. Brother man,
as if the gift of thought, 'I can',
provided a leaping impetus:
I Can Abyss Hieronymous,

Poet Lariat [anonymous]. LOL
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.
Fred. You're a fuckhead.
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<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.
Fred. You're a fuckhead.- Hide quoted text -
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Chuck. You're apparently barely literate. Why is that? LOL.
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<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.
Fred. You're a fuckhead.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Chuck.  You're apparently barely literate.  Why is that?  LOL.
LOL!!!
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Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.
Fred. You're a fuckhead.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Chuck.  You're apparently barely literate.  Why is that?  LOL.
LOL!!!
It's a crying shame is what it is. Imagine the stories you could tell
if you could write. LOL
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Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600,
iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling
wankers who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.
Fred. You're a fuckhead.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Chuck.  You're apparently barely literate.  Why is that?  LOL.
LOL!!!
It's a crying shame is what it is. Imagine the stories you could tell
if you could write. LOL
LOL!!!

--
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2012-01-03 05:43:49 UTC
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Fred. You're a fuckhead.- Hide quoted text -
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Chuck. You're apparently barely literate. Why is that? LOL.
While it's nice to see more traffic in alt.books.beatgeneration, it's a pity
the quality of the discussion is so poor, consisting mainly of mindless ad
hominems like the above.

and the even more mindless "Show quoted text" "Hide quoted text" that looks
like a software glitch.
--
Steve Hayes
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/litmain.htm
http://www.goodreads.com/hayesstw
http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/Methodius
Fred Hall
2012-01-03 05:45:09 UTC
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Fred. You're a fuckhead.- Hide quoted text -
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Chuck. You're apparently barely literate. Why is that? LOL.
While it's nice to see more traffic in alt.books.beatgeneration, it's a pity
the quality of the discussion is so poor, consisting mainly of mindless ad
hominems like the above.
The truth is considered an ad hominem? I would think in a book group a
poster's level of literacy would be on topic
Post by Steve Hayes
and the even more mindless "Show quoted text" "Hide quoted text" that looks
like a software glitch.
The wonderful world of Giggle Gropes

--
Hieronymous707
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Fred. You're a fuckhead.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Chuck.  You're apparently barely literate.  Why is that?  LOL.
While it's nice to see more traffic in alt.books.beatgeneration, it's a pity
the quality of the discussion is so poor, consisting mainly of mindless ad
hominems like the above.
and the even more mindless "Show quoted text" "Hide quoted text" that looks
like a software glitch.
--
Steve Hayes
Web:http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/litmain.htm
     http://www.goodreads.com/hayesstw
     http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/Methodius
I feel you, dude. Fortunately for all it was only a laugh attack and
not the kind that really hurts. LOL
Peter Ceresole
2012-01-03 10:08:10 UTC
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Fortunately for all it was only a laugh attack and
not the kind that really hurts. LOL
'LOL' just makes the poster look like an idiot.
--
Peter
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Fortunately for all it was only a laugh attack and
not the kind that really hurts. LOL
'LOL' just makes the poster look like an idiot.
As someone wrote a long time ago:

Ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the
fool: this also is vanity.
--
Steve Hayes
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/litmain.htm
http://www.goodreads.com/hayesstw
http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/Methodius
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy?
As one of America's greatest poets, it certainly seems true.
Post by Fred Hall
Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.
Yes, I actually posted here about this strange event in Ginsberg's
later years... I'll find my original post, which got zero response,
iirc.

--
Gone Too Far / Will Dockery
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_11596860
Hieronymous707
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<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy?
As one of America's greatest poets, it certainly seems true.
Post by Fred Hall
Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.
Yes, I actually posted here about this strange event in Ginsberg's
later years... I'll find my original post, which got zero response,
iirc.
--
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LOL. It wasn't really a strange event, Will. It was typical
Ginsberg. Well, like everything else, as long as it 'seems' true to
you, then I suppose it's okay to pass along and spread around as if it
were really true.
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2012-01-02 17:35:22 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy?
As one of America's greatest poets, it certainly seems true.
Post by Fred Hall
Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.
Yes, I actually posted here about this strange event in Ginsberg's
later years... I'll find my original post, which got zero response,
iirc.
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LOL.  It wasn't really a strange event, Will.  It was typical Ginsberg.
Not really typical Ginsberg, from what I know of him & his life.

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Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy?
As one of America's greatest poets, it certainly seems true.
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Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.
Yes, I actually posted here about this strange event in Ginsberg's
later years... I'll find my original post, which got zero response,
iirc.
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http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_11596860
LOL.  It wasn't really a strange event, Will.  It was typical Ginsberg.
Not really typical Ginsberg, from what I know of him & his life.
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LOL. How dumb are you, Will? Your commentary suggests that you don't
know a damn thing about Ginsberg or his life. His comment was
typically Ginsberg shocking, just the kind he'd been making his whole
Howling life. You don't do him any justice by claiming to be a 40
year authority.
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His comment was
typically Ginsberg shocking, just the kind he'd been making his whole Howling life.
While your comment shows a very superficial knowledge of Ginsberg.

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His comment was
typically Ginsberg shocking, just the kind he'd been making his whole Howling life.
While your comment shows a very superficial knowledge of Ginsberg.
LOL. Lucky for us my superficial knowledge recognized your abject
ignorance on sight, huh.
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LOL. Lucky for us my superficial knowledge
"Show, don't tell." -Dennis M. Hammes

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LOL. Lucky for us my superficial knowledge
"Show, don't tell." -Dennis M. Hammes
Hey! Dennis stole that from me! LOL!!!

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LOL. Lucky for us my superficial knowledge
"Show, don't tell." -Dennis M. Hammes
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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will. What does that
do for you? Do you feel better now? Have you defended your honor or
something? If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool. I'd
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the same
to you.
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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you, Corey,
although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered for a moment
as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even mentioned, was if
things would go back to this... I don't know if you remember that or
not.

Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this long
without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you?  Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be under
the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg are somehow
inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to "show me".

Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
 Have you defended your honor or
something?  If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion, since
that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the same
to you.
I have no intentions of going back to /that/ bullshit if possible, and
yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back in that
direction.

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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you, Corey,
although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered for a moment
as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even mentioned, was if
things would go back to this... I don't know if you remember that or
not.
Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this long
without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you?  Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be under
the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg are somehow
inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to "show me".
Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
 Have you defended your honor or
something?  If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion, since
that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the same
to you.
I have no intentions of going back to that bullshit if possible, and
yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back in that
direction.
It's my fault, Dockery. I've been LOL'ing without permission and it's making
Corey pissy

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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you, Corey,
although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered for a moment
as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even mentioned, was if
things would go back to this... I don't know if you remember that or
not.
Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this long
without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you? Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be under
the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg are somehow
inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to "show me".
Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
Have you defended your honor or
something? If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion, since
that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the same
to you.
I have no intentions of going back to that bullshit if possible, and
yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back in that
direction.
It's my fault, Dockery.  I've been LOL'ing without permission and it's making
Corey pissy
--
I haven't had a chance to read all those posts, yet, and may not have
time to delve & scroll for them for a couple more days, Fred.

Hope 2012 is going well for you so far, Fred... pretty smooth down
this way.

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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you, Corey,
although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered for a moment
as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even mentioned, was if
things would go back to this... I don't know if you remember that or
not.
Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this long
without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you? Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be under
the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg are somehow
inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to "show me".
Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
Have you defended your honor or
something? If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion, since
that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the same
to you.
I have no intentions of going back to that bullshit if possible, and
yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back in that
direction.
It's my fault, Dockery.  I've been LOL'ing without permission and it's
making Corey pissy
--
I haven't had a chance to read all those posts, yet, and may not have
time to delve & scroll for them for a couple more days, Fred.
Hope 2012 is going well for you so far, Fred... pretty smooth down
this way.
SSDD in East Texas

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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you, Corey,
although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered for a moment
as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even mentioned, was if
things would go back to this... I don't know if you remember that or
not.
Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this long
without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you? Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be under
the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg are somehow
inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to "show me".
Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
Have you defended your honor or
something? If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion, since
that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the same
to you.
I have no intentions of going back to that bullshit if possible, and
yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back in that
direction.
It's my fault, Dockery.  I've been LOL'ing without permission and it's
making Corey pissy
--
I haven't had a chance to read all those posts, yet, and may not have
time to delve & scroll for them for a couple more days, Fred.
Hope 2012 is going well for you so far, Fred... pretty smooth down
this way.
SSDD in East Texas
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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you, Corey,
although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered for a moment
as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even mentioned, was if
things would go back to this... I don't know if you remember that or
not.
Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this long
without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you? Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be under
the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg are somehow
inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to "show me".
Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
Have you defended your honor or
something? If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion, since
that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the
same to you.
I have no intentions of going back to that bullshit if possible, and
yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back in that
direction.
It's my fault, Dockery.  I've been LOL'ing without permission and it's
making Corey pissy
--
I haven't had a chance to read all those posts, yet, and may not have
time to delve & scroll for them for a couple more days, Fred.
Hope 2012 is going well for you so far, Fred... pretty smooth down
this way.
SSDD in East Texas
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Same Shit Different Day

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2012-01-03 19:23:31 UTC
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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you, Corey,
although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered for a moment
as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even mentioned, was if
things would go back to this... I don't know if you remember that or
not.
Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this long
without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you? Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be under
the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg are somehow
inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to "show me".
Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
Have you defended your honor or
something? If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion, since
that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the
same to you.
I have no intentions of going back to that bullshit if possible, and
yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back in that
direction.
It's my fault, Dockery.  I've been LOL'ing without permission and it's
making Corey pissy
--
I haven't had a chance to read all those posts, yet, and may not have
time to delve & scroll for them for a couple more days, Fred.
Hope 2012 is going well for you so far, Fred... pretty smooth down
this way.
SSDD in East Texas
--
What is "SSDD"?
Same Shit Different Day
--
Heh... I thought it might be Scroll Scroll Delve Delve...

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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you,
Corey, although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered
for a moment as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even
mentioned, was if things would go back to this... I don't know if
you remember that or not.
Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this
long without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you? Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be
under the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg
are somehow inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to
"show me".
Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
Have you defended your honor or
something? If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion,
since that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all
the same to you.
I have no intentions of going back to that bullshit if possible,
and yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back
in that direction.
It's my fault, Dockery.  I've been LOL'ing without permission and
it's making Corey pissy
--
I haven't had a chance to read all those posts, yet, and may not have
time to delve & scroll for them for a couple more days, Fred.
Hope 2012 is going well for you so far, Fred... pretty smooth down
this way.
SSDD in East Texas
--
What is "SSDD"?
Same Shit Different Day
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Heh... I thought it might be Scroll Scroll Delve Delve...
It's a multipurpose acronym

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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you, Corey,
although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered for a moment
as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even mentioned, was if
things would go back to this... I don't know if you remember that or
not.
Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this long
without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you?  Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be under
the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg are somehow
inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to "show me".
Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
 Have you defended your honor or
something?  If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion, since
that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the same
to you.
I have no intentions of going back to /that/ bullshit if possible, and
yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back in that
direction.
--
Gone Too Far / Will Dockeryhttp://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_11596860
I was referring to your habit of snipping context and content in order
to superimpose a non-specific reference. Doing so confuses the issue,
and allows an opportunity to demonstrate your understanding of a topic
to pass by. I don't think you should do that. I think you should
seize every opportunity to demonstrate your passion for your chosen
field if you want to attract interest and attention to yourself. I
don't know what I said to suggest inferiority. Whatever it was, I
apologize. You're the one who claimed forty years of authority. I
was simply challenging your authority. You don't seem to have the
understanding of him or his work that your forty year comment would
suggest. That's all. I'm no Ginsberg expert. I just know what I've
read. FWIW, it's really hard for me to understand you when you parse
text like that instead of stringing together complete and gogent
thoughts in sentences and such. It's just a personal preference, of
course. I'm not telling you what to do or how to write. If you think
that gets your point across, keep doing it.
Will Dockery
2012-01-03 18:17:23 UTC
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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you, Corey,
although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered for a moment
as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even mentioned, was if
things would go back to this... I don't know if you remember that or
not.
Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this long
without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you?  Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be under
the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg are somehow
inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to "show me".
Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
 Have you defended your honor or
something?  If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion, since
that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the same
to you.
I have no intentions of going back to /that/ bullshit if possible, and
yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back in that
direction.
--
Gone Too Far / Will Dockeryhttp://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_11596860
I was referring to your habit of snipping context and content in order
to superimpose a non-specific reference.  Doing so confuses the issue,
and allows an opportunity to demonstrate your understanding of a topic
to pass by.  I don't think you should do that.  I think you should
seize every opportunity to demonstrate your passion for your chosen
field if you want to attract interest and attention to yourself.  I
don't know what I said to suggest inferiority.  Whatever it was, I
apologize.  You're the one who claimed forty years of authority.  I
was simply challenging your authority.  You don't seem to have the
understanding of him or his work that your forty year comment would
suggest.  That's all.  I'm no Ginsberg expert.  I just know what I've
read.  FWIW, it's really hard for me to understand you when you parse
text like that instead of stringing together complete and gogent
thoughts in sentences and such.  It's just a personal preference, of
course.  I'm not telling you what to do or how to write.  If you think
that gets your point across, keep doing it.
Okay, well I had already decided that you were right in part about my
knowledge of Allen Ginsberg, as I noticed/remembered there are vast
sections of Ginsberg's story I know little-to-nothing about, my sharp
focus hinging more on the stories of some of the people Ginsberg was
"attached" to, and those are sometimes more of my focus.

So, like you, I'm far from an expert on Allen Ginsberg, either.

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LOL. You resort to old behaviors pretty quickly, Will.
Interestingly, I just was thinking exactly the same about you, Corey,
although I guess I'm not surprised. One thing I wondered for a moment
as I was telling you goodbye last year, and even mentioned, was if
things would go back to this... I don't know if you remember that or
not.
Okay, that made me "feel better" to think that we've made it this long
without reverting back to the old patterns, which counts for
something, in my opinion.
Post by Hieronymous707
What does that
do for you?  Do you feel better now?
No, since I have nothing to feel "better" about. You seem to be under
the delusion that my insights & appreciation of Ginsberg are somehow
inferior to yours so I simply replied for you to "show me".
Does that make you feel better from whatever it is that ails you?
Post by Hieronymous707
 Have you defended your honor or
something?  If you'd rather not correspond with me, that's cool.
I guess that's best at least in this Allen Ginsberg discussion, since
that's obviously going nowhere.
Post by Hieronymous707
rather that than go backwards in our relationship if it's all the same
to you.
I have no intentions of going back to /that/ bullshit if possible, and
yes it is sort of disappointing to see it being pushed back in that
direction.
--
Gone Too Far / Will Dockeryhttp://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_11596860
I was referring to your habit of snipping context and content in order
to superimpose a non-specific reference.  Doing so confuses the issue,
and allows an opportunity to demonstrate your understanding of a topic
to pass by.  I don't think you should do that.  I think you should
seize every opportunity to demonstrate your passion for your chosen
field if you want to attract interest and attention to yourself.  I
don't know what I said to suggest inferiority.  Whatever it was, I
apologize.  You're the one who claimed forty years of authority.  I
was simply challenging your authority.  You don't seem to have the
understanding of him or his work that your forty year comment would
suggest.  That's all.  I'm no Ginsberg expert.  I just know what I've
read.  FWIW, it's really hard for me to understand you when you parse
text like that instead of stringing together complete and gogent
thoughts in sentences and such.  It's just a personal preference, of
course.  I'm not telling you what to do or how to write.  If you think
that gets your point across, keep doing it.
Okay, well I had already decided that you were right in part about my
knowledge of Allen Ginsberg, as I noticed/remembered there are vast
sections of Ginsberg's story I know little-to-nothing about, my sharp
focus hinging more on the stories of some of the people Ginsberg was
"attached" to, and those are sometimes more of my focus.
So, like you, I'm far from an expert on Allen Ginsberg, either.
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Yeah, I recall you always being more specifically into Kerouac than
Ginsberg anyway. Again, sorry if I tweaked your tail feathers
before. Din't mean to.
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Post by Hieronymous707
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL. You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS" it raises a huge
red flag with most of us. He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay. That fine with me. Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view. I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money. I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject. The feds know who I am. I
know lots of feds too. Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman. He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue. We're talking, honestly, about real concerns. If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
Post by Hieronymous707
I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
LOL!! "POT" sponsored by NORML no doubt....
Picture here the dark Abyss
as if such a space could co-exist
between us, seen on screen with text
to illustrate its placement. Next
time this rhyme suggests that chasm,
think first not of dry sarcasm,
for such a well kempt hemp rope knot
can mean a lot of hope for pot,
and hope for dope-like knots might sate
that piece of mind some blind with hate
of one another. Brother man,
as if the gift of thought, 'I can',
I Can Abyss Hieronymous,
Poet Lariat [anonymous]. LOL
I hope you can laugh at yourself as hard and as long as everyone else
will..
Hieronymous707
2012-01-04 00:55:02 UTC
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Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real concerns.  If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
LOL!!   "POT"  sponsored by NORML no doubt....
Picture here the dark Abyss
as if such a space could co-exist
between us, seen on screen with text
to illustrate its placement. Next
time this rhyme suggests that chasm,
think first not of dry sarcasm,
for such a well kempt hemp rope knot
can mean a lot of hope for pot,
and hope for dope-like knots might sate
that piece of mind some blind with hate
of one another. Brother man,
as if the gift of thought, 'I can',
I Can Abyss Hieronymous,
Poet Lariat [anonymous].  LOL
I hope you can laugh at yourself as hard and as long as everyone else
will..
Thanks. I hope you can laugh at me as well as I can too. It's my
best thing, and the only thing I can give you of any intrinsic value.
I'm good for nothing if not a lingering laugh out loud. Enjoy me as
you will, if you can. LOL
T-Bone
2012-01-04 01:42:36 UTC
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On Jan 2, 1:36 pm, Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real concerns.  If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
LOL!!   "POT"  sponsored by NORML no doubt....
Picture here the dark Abyss
as if such a space could co-exist
between us, seen on screen with text
to illustrate its placement. Next
time this rhyme suggests that chasm,
think first not of dry sarcasm,
for such a well kempt hemp rope knot
can mean a lot of hope for pot,
and hope for dope-like knots might sate
that piece of mind some blind with hate
of one another. Brother man,
as if the gift of thought, 'I can',
I Can Abyss Hieronymous,
Poet Lariat [anonymous].  LOL
I hope you can laugh at yourself as hard and as long as everyone else
will..
Thanks. I hope you can laugh at me as well as I can too. It's my
best thing, and the only thing I can give you of any intrinsic value.
I'm good for nothing if not a lingering laugh out loud. Enjoy me as
you will, if you can. LOL
That shit isn't any better than that ghetto Nigger rap.

T-Bone
Hieronymous707
2012-01-04 07:15:13 UTC
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On Jan 2, 1:36 pm, Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Usenet Legends Бobandcaяole
Post by Fred Hall
Post by Will Dockery
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:01:35 -0600, iamb
<...>
Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
Post by Hieronymous707
 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
Post by Hieronymous707
It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real concerns.  If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
Post by Hieronymous707
I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
Post by Hieronymous707
Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
Post by Hieronymous707
long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
Post by Hieronymous707
I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
Post by Hieronymous707
Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
Post by Hieronymous707
and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
LOL!!   "POT"  sponsored by NORML no doubt....
Picture here the dark Abyss
as if such a space could co-exist
between us, seen on screen with text
to illustrate its placement. Next
time this rhyme suggests that chasm,
think first not of dry sarcasm,
for such a well kempt hemp rope knot
can mean a lot of hope for pot,
and hope for dope-like knots might sate
that piece of mind some blind with hate
of one another. Brother man,
as if the gift of thought, 'I can',
I Can Abyss Hieronymous,
Poet Lariat [anonymous].  LOL
I hope you can laugh at yourself as hard and as long as everyone else
will..
Thanks.  I hope you can laugh at me as well as I can too.  It's my
best thing, and the only thing I can give you of any intrinsic value.
I'm good for nothing if not a lingering laugh out loud.  Enjoy me as
you will, if you can.  LOL
That shit isn't any better than that ghetto Nigger rap.
T-Bone
LOL, absolutely no better at all.
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That shit isn't any better than that ghetto N****r rap.
T-Bone
LOL, absolutely no better at all.
As Ginsberg put it oh so more poetically:

"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed
by madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at
dawn looking for an angry fix,
angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient
heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the
machinery of night..." -Allen Ginsberg
--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
Will Dockery
2012-01-11 17:38:13 UTC
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Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other than
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted, unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster deserving zero respect
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LOL.  You have evidence that Ginsberg actually molested children?
You've GOT to be kidding!!..when a man states "to label pedophilia
{ie: child molesting"} as criminal is RIDICULOUS"  it raises a huge
red flag with most of us.  He's surely not somebody you would let
babysit your preteen son to say the least.
''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
''Ginsberg was an active pederast''http://theartblog.org/2009/04/a-poet-a-priest-and-a-political-activis...
Definition of PEDERAST. : one who practices anal intercourse
especially with a boy. — ped·er·as·tic \ˌpe-də-ˈras-tik\ adjective. —
ped·er·as·ty \ˈpe-də-ˌras-tē\ ...
It really doesn't matter if he actually engaged in plumbing little
boys assholes, the fact that he ADVOCATED it and belonged to NAMBLA is
enough to denounce him for his sick, flawed, perverted character and
turn a blind eye to anything he spewed.
LOL, okay.  That fine with me.  Feel free to turn your blind eye
whichever way you don't want to see whatever's not worth looking at in
your view.  I'll just read what I wants to read; hows about that?
I would wager the feds would love to see your hard-drive.
A*
LOL, some people will bet on anything, and I'm sure there's somebody
around here who'll be happy to take your money.  I'm a public person.
I run a small nonprofit.
A nonprofit what?
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 I'm vocal about medical cannabis law
reform.
You are a drug user-addict also.
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It's a controversial subject.  The feds know who I am.  I
know lots of feds too.  Dr. Andy Harris is my congressman.  He doesn't
share my views on medical cannabis, but at least we've established a
dialogue.  We're talking, honestly, about real concerns.  If you have
any real concerns in my regards, or about my personal character,
please state them outright so that I can address them directly.
I think enough concerns have already been raised.
I'm a vet.
"Don't ask-Don't tell" eh?
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I run a company that trains and employs wounded vets.
Name and address..
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Several of my employees suffer from PTSD, and smoke pot to alleviate
the symptoms.
What a fuckin' cop-out. If they want to get high why not be honest
about it because marijuana is NOT a good antidepressant compared to
Is marijuana a good antidepressant compared to others, when it comes
to side-affects?
''NO, Your body stops producing natural serotonin in your brain so
that you need dopamine at all times to feel good. Dopamine is one of
the chemicals released while smoking pot that makes you feel good and
it just ends up replacing serotonin. So if you're looking for an
antidepressant, probably not the way to go. Look into simple things
like exercise''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101215427AAXGYL3
 > I advocate their right to do so on their own time to
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long as it doesn't interfere with their work.
Hell, pass out the syringes and make it a REAL party...
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I appreciate the
opportunity to address your concerns.
We'll bet you do  :-)
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Obviously I have no reservations
with talking about myself and my people. We can't afford to advertise
WHAT  this "company" can't afford to advertize???
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and will take all of the good will and word of mouth we can get.
And of course rolling papers ......
The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
LOL!!   "POT"  sponsored by NORML no doubt....
Picture here the dark Abyss
as if such a space could co-exist
between us, seen on screen with text
to illustrate its placement. Next
time this rhyme suggests that chasm,
think first not of dry sarcasm,
for such a well kempt hemp rope knot
can mean a lot of hope for pot,
and hope for dope-like knots might sate
that piece of mind some blind with hate
of one another. Brother man,
as if the gift of thought, 'I can',
I Can Abyss Hieronymous,
Poet Lariat [anonymous].  LOL
I hope you can laugh at yourself as hard and as long as everyone else
will..
Thanks.  I hope you can laugh at me as well as I can too.  It's my
best thing, and the only thing I can give you of any intrinsic value.
I'm good for nothing if not a lingering laugh out loud.  Enjoy me as
you will, if you can.  LOL
That shit isn't any better than that ghetto Nigger rap.
T-Bone
Wow, what rock did you crawl out from under, racist clown?

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Gone Too Far / Will Dockery
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Peter, who are the people you want to be
amused/amazed/enlightened/entertained by work
like this?
I certanly don't write for misogynistic
doggerel-scribbling wankers
who think Allen Ginsberg was something other
than normal.
Wow, Pete, your jealousy of the universally
admired & respected
American poet Allen Ginsberg is noted,
unfortunately for you.
Jealousy? Allen Ginsberg made this statement.
''To label pedophilia as criminal is ridiculous."
Ginsberg was also a member of nambla--the North
American Man-Boy Love
Association. He was a child molesting monster
deserving zero respect
and is definitely not universally admired.- Hide
quoted text -
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''Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle
Rubin, Larry
Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule,
Michael Kearns,
and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either
NAMBLA or man-
boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the
founder of the
American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to
march with him
in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He
also marched
in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt
emblazoned with the
words "NAMBLA walks with
me."http://conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty
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The Seventh National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics will
be held at the Loews Ventana Canyon Resort in Tuscon, Arizona from
April 26 to 28, 2012. The University of California School of Medicine
at San Francisco, the College of Nursing of the University of Arizona,
and the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine are co-
sponsors of the event along with Patients Out of Time (POT). POT is a
volunteer organization, and asks your help in getting the word out to
media and medical communities that this accredited conference will
occur. Details and agenda are available
athttp://www.medicalcannabis.com.
POT appreciates your help, and concern for those with less time left
than you.
LOL!! "POT" sponsored by NORML no doubt....
Picture here the dark Abyss
as if such a space could co-exist
between us, seen on screen with text
to illustrate its placement. Next
time this rhyme suggests that chasm,
think first not of dry sarcasm,
for such a well kempt hemp rope knot
can mean a lot of hope for pot,
and hope for dope-like knots might sate
that piece of mind some blind with hate
of one another. Brother man,
as if the gift of thought, 'I can',
I Can Abyss Hieronymous,
Poet Lariat [anonymous]. LOL
I hope you can laugh at yourself as hard and as long as everyone else
will..
I believe that's the mission.
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