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Will Dockery
2012-04-07 22:29:05 UTC
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Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti
There you go again, PJR.

Your obvious jealousy of your betters, Ferlinghetti now, Ginsberg
earlier, is unbecoming.

--
Tonight... at Roasted Cafe & Lounge in Macon Georgia!
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Will Dockery
2012-04-08 21:09:27 UTC
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.

No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".

Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.

--
Here's the Sam Singer tune, which he actually set my poem to music to
on bass. This version is Brian Mallard, Gene Woolfolk Jr & Jack Snipe
on all instruments, my poem & vocal, obviously...
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_12609809
Fred Hall
2012-04-08 23:30:47 UTC
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Corey
2012-04-09 09:07:51 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Fred Hall
2012-04-09 21:49:31 UTC
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Post by Fred Hall
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Me, disingenuous?

Hope you have a good day also. Say hello to Angel for me, and ask her
to please post to Usenet more frequently. She's very entertaining.
--
Science flew man to the moon
Religion flew man into buildings...

AC
Corey
2012-04-09 22:22:13 UTC
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Post by Fred Hall
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Me, disingenuous?
Hope you have a good day also.  Say hello to Angel for me, and ask her
to please post to Usenet more frequently.  She's very entertaining.
--
Science flew man to the moon
Religion flew man into buildings...
AC
It sounds odd you'd hope I have a good day at this late hour. We just
ate dinner. Angel's sister Jeanie, Maasson and Stephanie are here too.
We had ham and kale and mac&cheese. Mmm. I told Angel you said hi. She
said, "Fred? Do I know Fred?" I told her you were just some guy from
the group. No offense intended.
Fred Hall
2012-04-09 22:29:19 UTC
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 02:07:51 -0700 (PDT), Corey
Post by Corey
Post by Fred Hall
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Me, disingenuous?
Hope you have a good day also.  Say hello to Angel for me, and ask her
to please post to Usenet more frequently.  She's very entertaining.
--
Science flew man to the moon
Religion flew man into buildings...
AC
It sounds odd you'd hope I have a good day at this late hour. We just
ate dinner. Angel's sister Jeanie, Maasson and Stephanie are here too.
We had ham and kale and mac&cheese. Mmm. I told Angel you said hi. She
said, "Fred? Do I know Fred?" I told her you were just some guy from
the group. No offense intended.
None taken. I am a bit peeved you didn't invite me to dinner.
Corey
2012-04-09 22:46:48 UTC
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 02:07:51 -0700 (PDT), Corey
Post by Corey
Post by Fred Hall
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Me, disingenuous?
Hope you have a good day also.  Say hello to Angel for me, and ask her
to please post to Usenet more frequently.  She's very entertaining.
--
Science flew man to the moon
Religion flew man into buildings...
AC
It sounds odd you'd hope I have a good day at this late hour. We just
ate dinner. Angel's sister Jeanie, Maasson and Stephanie are here too.
We had ham and kale and mac&cheese. Mmm. I told Angel you said hi. She
said, "Fred? Do I know Fred?" I told her you were just some guy from
the group. No offense intended.
None taken.  I am a bit peeved you didn't invite me to dinner.
Bullshit. If you were in the neighborhood, you'd be here. I'm easy to
find, and you have my phone numbers. Anyway, if you ever figure out
how, or why you should stop trying to bullshit me, you know you're
welcome here anytime.
Fred Hall
2012-04-09 23:35:15 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Me, disingenuous?
Hope you have a good day also.  Say hello to Angel for me, and ask her
to please post to Usenet more frequently.  She's very entertaining.
--
Science flew man to the moon
Religion flew man into buildings...
AC
It sounds odd you'd hope I have a good day at this late hour. We just
ate dinner. Angel's sister Jeanie, Maasson and Stephanie are here too.
We had ham and kale and mac&cheese. Mmm. I told Angel you said hi. She
said, "Fred? Do I know Fred?" I told her you were just some guy from
the group. No offense intended.
None taken.  I am a bit peeved you didn't invite me to dinner.
Bullshit. If you were in the neighborhood, you'd be here. I'm easy to
find, and you have my phone numbers. Anyway, if you ever figure out
how, or why you should stop trying to bullshit me, you know you're
welcome here anytime.
I'm a bit shy in real life. I would never presume to just show up at
your door, unannounced, and invite myself to dinner. Same for phone
calls. When I have spoken to Usenet personalities via telephone, they
invariably ridicule me on Usenet, saying I sound like an uneducated
hick. So, if I call you, are you available?
Corey
2012-04-09 23:55:47 UTC
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 02:07:51 -0700 (PDT), Corey
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Me, disingenuous?
Hope you have a good day also.  Say hello to Angel for me, and ask her
to please post to Usenet more frequently.  She's very entertaining.
--
Science flew man to the moon
Religion flew man into buildings...
AC
It sounds odd you'd hope I have a good day at this late hour. We just
ate dinner. Angel's sister Jeanie, Maasson and Stephanie are here too.
We had ham and kale and mac&cheese. Mmm. I told Angel you said hi. She
said, "Fred? Do I know Fred?" I told her you were just some guy from
the group. No offense intended.
None taken.  I am a bit peeved you didn't invite me to dinner.
Bullshit. If you were in the neighborhood, you'd be here. I'm easy to
find, and you have my phone numbers. Anyway, if you ever figure out
how, or why you should stop trying to bullshit me, you know you're
welcome here anytime.
I'm a bit shy in real life.  I would never presume to just show up at
your door, unannounced, and invite myself to dinner.  Same for phone
calls.  When I have spoken to Usenet personalities via telephone, they
invariably ridicule me on Usenet, saying I sound like an uneducated
hick.  So, if I call you, are you available?
I think we went through this before, didn't we? If you don't feel
comfortable calling, don't call. No worries. Will doesn't like using
the telephone either. It's no big deal. I'm perfectly comfortable like
this or on the phone. Either way works for me. I don't believe you're
shy though. That's just more of your bullshit. If you knew me like my
friends know me you'd presume all those things. I've got some really
rude fucking friends. Like Robert. He's a CPT, cardio pulmonary
technician who sells C arms, if you know what those are. He's on the
road a lot, and stops here at all odd hours. He just showed up,
unannounced, as usual. That's our Robert Dalrymple, LOL.
the messenjah
2012-04-10 01:19:19 UTC
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 02:07:51 -0700 (PDT), Corey
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Me, disingenuous?
Hope you have a good day also.  Say hello to Angel for me, and ask her
to please post to Usenet more frequently.  She's very entertaining.
--
Science flew man to the moon
Religion flew man into buildings...
AC
It sounds odd you'd hope I have a good day at this late hour. We just
ate dinner. Angel's sister Jeanie, Maasson and Stephanie are here too.
We had ham and kale and mac&cheese. Mmm. I told Angel you said hi. She
said, "Fred? Do I know Fred?" I told her you were just some guy from
the group. No offense intended.
None taken.  I am a bit peeved you didn't invite me to dinner.
Bullshit. If you were in the neighborhood, you'd be here. I'm easy to
find, and you have my phone numbers. Anyway, if you ever figure out
how, or why you should stop trying to bullshit me, you know you're
welcome here anytime.
I'm a bit shy in real life.  I would never presume to just show up at
your door, unannounced, and invite myself to dinner.  Same for phone
calls.  When I have spoken to Usenet personalities via telephone, they
invariably ridicule me on Usenet, saying I sound like an uneducated
hick.  So, if I call you, are you available?
You weren't shy when you called me in the middle of the night calling
me a "kiddie-fucker".
Fred Hall
2012-04-10 01:35:04 UTC
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 15:22:13 -0700 (PDT), Corey
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 02:07:51 -0700 (PDT), Corey
Post by Corey
Post by Fred Hall
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Me, disingenuous?
Hope you have a good day also.  Say hello to Angel for me, and ask her
to please post to Usenet more frequently.  She's very entertaining.
--
Science flew man to the moon
Religion flew man into buildings...
AC
It sounds odd you'd hope I have a good day at this late hour. We just
ate dinner. Angel's sister Jeanie, Maasson and Stephanie are here too.
We had ham and kale and mac&cheese. Mmm. I told Angel you said hi. She
said, "Fred? Do I know Fred?" I told her you were just some guy from
the group. No offense intended.
None taken.  I am a bit peeved you didn't invite me to dinner.
Bullshit. If you were in the neighborhood, you'd be here. I'm easy to
find, and you have my phone numbers. Anyway, if you ever figure out
how, or why you should stop trying to bullshit me, you know you're
welcome here anytime.
I'm a bit shy in real life.  I would never presume to just show up at
your door, unannounced, and invite myself to dinner.  Same for phone
calls.  When I have spoken to Usenet personalities via telephone, they
invariably ridicule me on Usenet, saying I sound like an uneducated
hick.  So, if I call you, are you available?
You weren't shy when you called me in the middle of the night calling
me a "kiddie-fucker".
Proof, kiddie fucker?
Cujo DeSockpuppet
2012-04-10 01:31:36 UTC
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"kiddie-fucker".
Isn't it a bit early for a deathbed confession? I hope not!

Feel free to rush it, Kluckweasel.
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2012-04-10 01:40:44 UTC
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0500, Fred
http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Me, disingenuous?
Hope you have a good day also.  Say hello to Angel for me, and ask her
to please post to Usenet more frequently.  She's very entertaining.
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It sounds odd you'd hope I have a good day at this late hour. We just
ate dinner. Angel's sister Jeanie, Maasson and Stephanie are here too.
We had ham and kale and mac&cheese. Mmm. I told Angel you said hi. She
said, "Fred? Do I know Fred?" I told her you were just some guy from
the group. No offense intended.
None taken.  I am a bit peeved you didn't invite me to dinner.
Bullshit. If you were in the neighborhood, you'd be here. I'm easy to
find, and you have my phone numbers. Anyway, if you ever figure out
how, or why you should stop trying to bullshit me, you know you're
welcome here anytime.
I'm a bit shy in real life.  I would never presume to just show up at
your door, unannounced, and invite myself to dinner.  Same for phone
calls.  When I have spoken to Usenet personalities via telephone, they
invariably ridicule me on Usenet, saying I sound like an uneducated
hick.  So, if I call you, are you available?
You weren't shy when you called me in the middle of the night calling
me a "kiddie-fucker".
When exactly is the middle of the night? I keep really odd hours. I
sleep like a baby, which usually means I'm up every couple of hours,
eat, then cry myself back to dreamland. Angel's cool with it so long
as she doesn't have to wash diapers.
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Bullshit. If you were in the neighborhood, you'd be here. I'm easy to
find, and you have my phone numbers. Anyway, if you ever figure out
how, or why you should stop trying to bullshit me, you know you're
welcome here anytime.
I know this is true, and would love to be able to drop in sometimes
and hang out with y'all.

The several hundred miles between us makes that pretty much impossible
for me & The Bro at this time.

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Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Stop that. You know better. You're only making it worse. Fuck. 5am and
I need ice already. This is not the way I wanted to start my day. I
know you think you're trying to be instructive, but do you think you
could be just a little less contemptuously disengenuous in the
process? Thanks ever so much, sweetheart. *smooch* Y'all have a nice
day now, ya hear?
Me, disingenuous?
Hope you have a good day also.  Say hello to Angel for me, and ask her
to please post to Usenet more frequently.  She's very entertaining.
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Religion flew man into buildings...
AC
It sounds odd you'd hope I have a good day at this late hour. We just
ate dinner. Angel's sister Jeanie, Maasson and Stephanie are here too.
We had ham and kale and mac&cheese. Mmm. I told Angel you said hi. She
said, "Fred? Do I know Fred?" I told her you were just some guy from
the group. No offense intended.
Religious men flew to the moon,
And caught a Buzz
Aldrin taking Holy Communion.
9/11 was an Emergence, see?
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No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
No, if you'll read what I wrote again, I was referring to "PJR".

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No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
No, if you'll read what I wrote again, I was referring to "PJR".
PJR needed Pound's help to win...you have confused me Dockery. I have
no idea what you meant.
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.

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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
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What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Or the Revolutionary War?

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What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Or the Revolutionary War?
Fine
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
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Perhaps I started it?
Nah, you're just another Hitler-wannabe, PJR

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What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nah, you're just another Hitler-wannabe, PJR
Wie so, Herr Dockery?
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What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nah, you're just another Hitler-wannabe, PJR
Wie so, Herr Dockery?
Isn't it obvious, Fred?

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What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nah, you're just another Hitler-wannabe, PJR
Wie so, Herr Dockery?
Isn't it obvious, Fred?
If it was obvious, I wouldn't have asked.
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Not bad. Kinda LouReedy, and I know why.
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Not bad.  Kinda LouReedy, and I know why.
Thanks... but wie so, Herr Hall?
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Not bad.  Kinda LouReedy, and I know why.
Thanks... but wie so, Herr Hall?
Would it matter if Nazi skinheads loved your music, Will? For example,
if you found out that there was a subculture of racist thugs who
really loved your music, and used your songs as a rallying and
recruiting tool at all their racist thug club meetings, how would you
react to their free use of your work? How would you feel if your music
was played in prison, and a child molesting, rapist, murderer thought
your music was the real cat's meow? What if, all of a sudden, you
became really popular, but only with the outcast, dregs of society.
How would that affect your perception of whatever the fuck you call
what you do?
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Not bad.  Kinda LouReedy, and I know why.
Thanks... but wie so, Herr Hall?
Would it matter if Nazi skinheads loved your music, Will? For example,
if you found out that there was a subculture of racist thugs who
really loved your music, and used your songs as a rallying and
recruiting tool at all their racist thug club meetings, how would you
react to their free use of your work? How would you feel if your music
was played in prison, and a child molesting, rapist, murderer thought
your music was the real cat's meow? What if, all of a sudden, you
became really popular, but only with the outcast, dregs of society.
How would that affect your perception of whatever the fuck you call
what you do?
Sounds like the problems Ron Paul has been having.
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Not bad.  Kinda LouReedy, and I know why.
Thanks... but wie so, Herr Hall?
Would it matter if Nazi skinheads loved your music, Will? For example,
if you found out that there was a subculture of racist thugs who
really loved your music, and used your songs as a rallying and
recruiting tool at all their racist thug club meetings, how would you
react to their free use of your work? How would you feel if your music
was played in prison, and a child molesting, rapist, murderer thought
your music was the real cat's meow? What if, all of a sudden, you
became really popular, but only with the outcast, dregs of society.
How would that affect your perception of whatever the fuck you call
what you do?
Sounds like the problems Ron Paul has been having.
Okay. Identify with whoever the fuck you want. I didn't ask Paul. I
don't have access to him to get a direct answer. I asked you,
specifically and directly. You pussied out to Paul. Try again.
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I asked you,
specifically and directly.
Okay, my honest answer is that I don't *know* what I would do, since I
don't have a "problem" like that and don't expect to.

But if I did, I guess I might do some research and see what others
that have been in a situation similar to what you describe did, which
may have been why I used Ron Paul's example, since he's currently
having similar problems.

Or maybe I'd check into what, say, Paul McCartney did when Charles
Manson took "Helter Skelter" and ran with it.

Okay, now that's an honest and direct answer for you... take it or
leave it.

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I asked you,
specifically and directly.
Okay, my honest answer is that I don't *know* what I would do, since I
don't have a "problem" like that and don't expect to.
But if I did, I guess I might do some research and see what others
that have been in a situation similar to what you describe did, which
may have been why I used Ron Paul's example, since he's currently
having similar problems.
Or maybe I'd check into what, say, Paul McCartney did when Charles
Manson took "Helter Skelter" and ran with it.
Manson never ran. Still doesn't. Manson ain't no runner. If he was,
well, if a frog had wings, you know?
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Or maybe I'd check into what, say, Paul McCartney did when Charles
Manson took "Helter Skelter" and ran with it.
Manson never ran. Still doesn't. Manson ain't no runner. If he was,
well, if a frog had wings, you know?
I never knew that Manson didn't run... I guess running would be
difficult under all that hair & beard, though.

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Or maybe I'd check into what, say, Paul McCartney did when Charles
Manson took "Helter Skelter" and ran with it.
Manson never ran. Still doesn't. Manson ain't no runner. If he was,
well, if a frog had wings, you know?
I never knew that Manson didn't run... I guess running would be
difficult under all that hair & beard, though.
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When you hear "Helter Skelter" do you hear music or massacre? I hear
music.
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When you hear "Helter Skelter" do you hear music or massacre? I hear
music.
I always, always hear Paul McCartney and his story... slim as it is.

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When you hear "Helter Skelter" do you hear music or massacre? I hear
music.
I always, always hear Paul McCartney and his story... slim as it is.
Slim story, fat sound, whatever you want to call it, the good News, as
they say, is that the heart of rock and roll is still beating, and
from what I've seen I believe 'em. Now, the old boy may be barely
breathing, but the heart of rock and roll, THE heart of rock and roll
is still beating. Remember Baby Huey? Now THAT was one lovable
fucking duckling. LOL.

New York, New York! Is it everything they say?
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When you hear "Helter Skelter" do you hear music or massacre? I hear
music.
I always, always hear Paul McCartney and his story... slim as it is.
Slim story, fat sound, whatever you want to call it, the good News, as
they say, is that the heart of rock and roll is still beating, and
from what I've seen I believe 'em. Now, the old boy may be barely
breathing, but the heart of rock and roll, THE heart of rock and roll
is still beating.  Remember Baby Huey? Now THAT was one lovable
fucking duckling. LOL.
New York, New York! Is it everything they say?
Have fun... I'll be working, putting a rock show together on May 5th.

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When you hear "Helter Skelter" do you hear music or massacre? I hear
music.
I always, always hear Paul McCartney and his story... slim as it is.
Slim story, fat sound, whatever you want to call it, the good News, as
they say, is that the heart of rock and roll is still beating, and
from what I've seen I believe 'em. Now, the old boy may be barely
breathing, but the heart of rock and roll, THE heart of rock and roll
is still beating.  Remember Baby Huey? Now THAT was one lovable
fucking duckling. LOL.
New York, New York! Is it everything they say?
Have fun... I'll be working, putting a rock show together on May 5th.
LOL, mad coincidence. I just got an email from one of the guys who's
putting Bonnaroo together. Great news, Maasson's got a paid
photography gig, and a great party to go to! Dad's still got a few
connections. LOL.
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When you hear "Helter Skelter" do you hear music or massacre? I hear
music.
I always, always hear Paul McCartney and his story... slim as it is.
Slim story, fat sound, whatever you want to call it, the good News, as
they say, is that the heart of rock and roll is still beating, and
from what I've seen I believe 'em. Now, the old boy may be barely
breathing, but the heart of rock and roll, THE heart of rock and roll
is still beating.  Remember Baby Huey? Now THAT was one lovable
fucking duckling. LOL.
New York, New York! Is it everything they say?
Have fun... I'll be working, putting a rock show together on May 5th.
LOL, mad coincidence. I just got an email from one of the guys who's
putting Bonnaroo together. Great news, Maasson's got a paid
photography gig, and a great party to go to! Dad's still got a few
connections. LOL.
Congratulations to Maasson!

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When you hear "Helter Skelter" do you hear music or massacre? I hear
music.
I always, always hear Paul McCartney and his story... slim as it is.
Slim story, fat sound, whatever you want to call it, the good News, as
they say, is that the heart of rock and roll is still beating, and
from what I've seen I believe 'em. Now, the old boy may be barely
breathing, but the heart of rock and roll, THE heart of rock and roll
is still beating.  Remember Baby Huey? Now THAT was one lovable
fucking duckling. LOL.
New York, New York! Is it everything they say?
Have fun... I'll be working, putting a rock show together on May 5th.
LOL, mad coincidence. I just got an email from one of the guys who's
putting Bonnaroo together. Great news, Maasson's got a paid
photography gig, and a great party to go to! Dad's still got a few
connections. LOL.
Congratulations to Maasson!
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Yeah, whatever. You don't even know him, Will. I got him the gig
through people I know.
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I got him the gig
through people I know.
Yeah I kinda figured that.

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I got him the gig
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Yeah I kinda figured that.
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Really? It's so hard to tell what you kinda figured sometimes. LOL.
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I got him the gig
through people I know.
Yeah I kinda figured that.
Really? It's so hard to tell what you kinda figured sometimes. LOL.
Well you wrote it so I kinda figured it was true.

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I got him the gig
through people I know.
Yeah I kinda figured that.
Really? It's so hard to tell what you kinda figured sometimes. LOL.
Well you wrote it so I kinda figured it was true.
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You gave no indication of having any such understanding. So, what?
Just because I'm psychic I'm supposed to read your stupid fucking mind
all the time now? What the fuck is that, huh?
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I got him the gig
through people I know.
Yeah I kinda figured that.
Really? It's so hard to tell what you kinda figured sometimes. LOL.
Well you wrote it so I kinda figured it was true.
You gave no indication of having any such understanding.
Sure I did... I even congratulated the kid.

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I got him the gig
through people I know.
Yeah I kinda figured that.
Really? It's so hard to tell what you kinda figured sometimes. LOL.
Well you wrote it so I kinda figured it was true.
You gave no indication of having any such understanding.
Sure I did... I even congratulated the kid.
Right. Think about that. You congratulated somebody you've never met,
who you only know by name, who doesn't read the group, and who will
never know that you congratulated him, or what you congratulated him
for. Even if I told him, "Will Dockery says congratulations on the
Bonnaroo gig.", he wouldn't understand or appreciate your
congratulations because you have no sense of mutual understanding. He
wouldn't know what you mean. He hasn't done anything to warrant
congratulations from you. It wouldn't make sense to him, and there's
no way I can make you make sense to him if you don't make sense. And
you don't make sense.
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Even if I told him, "Will Dockery says congratulations on the
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congratulations
Well never mind, then... consider it striken from the archives.

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Even if I told him, "Will Dockery says congratulations on the
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Well never mind, then... consider it striken from the archives.
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LOL. Yeah, right.
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Even if I told him, "Will Dockery says congratulations on the
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LOL. Yeah, right.
Best I can do... if you and your family refuse my well wishes I reckon
I'll just refrain from offering them in the future.

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Even if I told him, "Will Dockery says congratulations on the
Bonnaroo gig.", he wouldn't understand or appreciate your
congratulations
Well never mind, then... consider it striken from the archives.
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LOL. Yeah, right.
Best I can do... if you and your family refuse my well wishes I reckon
I'll just refrain from offering them in the future.
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Jeez, Will. For real, get over yourself. Nobody's refusing anything
for crying out loud. You don't even know Maasson, or have any reason
to congratulate him. You could've congratulated me, because I'm the
one who actually did the thing, made the hookup, and because I'm the
person you actually know, and are communicating with. But no, you
didn't do that. Instead, you wanted me to offer a congratulation for
you to someone who doesn't deserve one yet, at least not until he
performs on his contract, and someone who doesn't know you from Adam.
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Jeez, Will. For real, get over yourself. Nobody's refusing anything
for crying out loud. You don't even know Maasson, or have any reason
to congratulate him. You could've congratulated me, because I'm the
one who actually did the thing, made the hookup, and because I'm the
person you actually know, and are communicating with. But no, you
didn't do that. Instead, you wanted me to offer a congratulation for
you to someone who doesn't deserve one yet, at least not until he
performs on his contract, and someone who doesn't know you from Adam.
Yeah... good thing I retracted that congratulations.

Jeeze.

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Jeez, Will. For real, get over yourself. Nobody's refusing anything
for crying out loud. You don't even know Maasson, or have any reason
to congratulate him. You could've congratulated me, because I'm the
one who actually did the thing, made the hookup, and because I'm the
person you actually know, and are communicating with. But no, you
didn't do that. Instead, you wanted me to offer a congratulation for
you to someone who doesn't deserve one yet, at least not until he
performs on his contract, and someone who doesn't know you from Adam.
Yeah... good thing I retracted that congratulations.
Jeeze.
Too bad you couldn't find your way to congratulating the person who
deserved it. That's telling.
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Too bad you couldn't find your way to congratulating the person who
deserved it. That's telling.
I'm sure you read earlier where I just decided I was done with all
this.

I'm not congratulating anyone now, I retracted all my
congratulations... I found your reaction to my simple gesture
offensive.

Now I'm in favor of letting all this pass, we're done with it.

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Too bad you couldn't find your way to congratulating the person who
deserved it. That's telling.
I'm sure you read earlier where I just decided I was done with all
this.
I'm not congratulating anyone now, I retracted all my
congratulations... I found your reaction to my simple gesture
offensive.
LOL. Really? Please explain. I'd like to not repeat that.
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When you hear "Helter Skelter" do you hear music or massacre? I hear
music.
I always, always hear Paul McCartney and his story... slim as it is.
Slim story, fat sound, whatever you want to call it, the good News, as
they say, is that the heart of rock and roll is still beating, and
from what I've seen I believe 'em. Now, the old boy may be barely
breathing, but the heart of rock and roll, THE heart of rock and roll
is still beating.  Remember Baby Huey? Now THAT was one lovable
fucking duckling. LOL.
New York, New York! Is it everything they say?
Have fun... I'll be working, putting a rock show together on May 5th.
Do you have to put up screens to keep people from throwing garbage and
eggs at you

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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nope, that was my fault. I shot the Archduke Ferdinand's younger
brother.
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nope, that was my fault. I shot the Archduke Ferdinand's younger
brother.
For stealing your H-Bomb Ferguson LP?
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nope, that was my fault. I shot the Archduke Ferdinand's younger
brother.
For stealing your H-Bomb Ferguson LP?
Et tu, Brute? "Don't look, Ethel!" - Ray Stevens. Boogity, Boogity.
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nope, that was my fault. I shot the Archduke Ferdinand's younger
brother.
For stealing your H-Bomb Ferguson LP?
Nah, he took the Charly CD Red Box Complete Muddy Waters
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nope, that was my fault. I shot the Archduke Ferdinand's younger
brother.
For stealing your H-Bomb Ferguson LP?
Nah, he took the Charly CD Red Box Complete Muddy Waters
THE BASTARD!!! Am I too late to sign up for the war?
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nope, that was my fault. I shot the Archduke Ferdinand's younger
brother.
For stealing your H-Bomb Ferguson LP?
Nah, he took the Charly CD Red Box Complete Muddy Waters
THE BASTARD!!!  Am I too late to sign up for the war?
LOL. War? You? Seriously, Fred, anytime you want your ass handed to
you, just say so. I'm here for you.
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THE BASTARD!!!  Am I too late to sign up for the war?
LOL. War? You? Seriously, Fred, anytime you want your ass handed to
you, just say so. I'm here for you.
"Let's you & him fight." -Popeye

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THE BASTARD!!!  Am I too late to sign up for the war?
LOL. War? You? Seriously, Fred, anytime you want your ass handed to
you, just say so. I'm here for you.
"Let's you & him fight." -Popeye
I am Popeye. Fred's Fucked.
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nope, that was my fault. I shot the Archduke Ferdinand's younger
brother.
But, to be fair, I was the one who created the whole Habsburg dynasty
in my secret Bechtel/Bush-funded laboratory.

"Unir lbh jngrerq gur oenvaf gbqnl, Vtbe?"
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PJR :-) | οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ, τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
| φύλλα τὰ μέν τ' ἄνεμος χαμάδις χέει, ἄλλα δέ θ' ὕλη
| τηλεθόωσα φύει, ἔαρος δ' ἐπιγίγνεται ὥρη·
| ὣς ἀνδρῶν γενεὴ ἡ μὲν φύει ἡ δ' ἀπολήγει. (Homer)
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nope, that was my fault. I shot the Archduke Ferdinand's younger
brother.
But, to be fair, I was the one who created the whole Habsburg dynasty
in my secret Bechtel/Bush-funded laboratory.
"Unir lbh jngrerq gur oenvaf gbqnl, Vtbe?"
That would be where "buggerit" came from?
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nope, that was my fault. I shot the Archduke Ferdinand's younger
brother.
But, to be fair, I was the one who created the whole Habsburg dynasty
in my secret Bechtel/Bush-funded laboratory.
"Unir lbh jngrerq gur oenvaf gbqnl, Vtbe?"
That would be where "buggerit" came from?
On buggery, from Bogomil, for that's its origin,
Though it is not my practice, I do not think it a sin.
The Bogomils were put upon by members of the Church,
But please don't poke me back there because ... Ow! Goddam that hurts!
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PJR needed Pound's help to win
There you go, that's my point yet again.
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Perhaps I started it?
Nope, that was my fault. I shot the Archduke Ferdinand's younger
brother.
But, to be fair, I was the one who created the whole Habsburg dynasty
in my secret Bechtel/Bush-funded laboratory.
"Unir lbh jngrerq gur oenvaf gbqnl, Vtbe?"
That would be where "buggerit" came from?
Obamb Qbt Qbb Qnu Onaq.
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PJR :-) | οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ, τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
| φύλλα τὰ μέν τ' ἄνεμος χαμάδις χέει, ἄλλα δέ θ' ὕλη
| τηλεθόωσα φύει, ἔαρος δ' ἐπιγίγνεται ὥρη·
| ὣς ἀνδρῶν γενεὴ ἡ μὲν φύει ἡ δ' ἀπολήγει. (Homer)
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http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Pound was British?
Ezra, 3rd Viscount Pound, was Prime Minister in 1776. After personally
leading British troops against some colonial tax-dodgers (who were
finally defeated in 1812), he retired to pursue his hobby of
dog-breeding. His cross of a mastiff with a dachshund was so popular
that it was commemorated in the song "You ain't nothing but a Pound
Dog."

If Dreckery doesn't believe me, I'll put up a Wikia.com page, and that
will make it true.
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| φύλλα τὰ μέν τ' ἄνεμος χαμάδις χέει, ἄλλα δέ θ' ὕλη
| τηλεθόωσα φύει, ἔαρος δ' ἐπιγίγνεται ὥρη·
| ὣς ἀνδρῶν γενεὴ ἡ μὲν φύει ἡ δ' ἀπολήγει. (Homer)
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http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
I'm not biting the hook this time.
Besides, I've already laughed at Ferlinghetti's risible attempts at
"poetry" many times in the past decade.
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound, I
should help them out by letting Pound read to them.
http://youtu.be/Aba1dVLVSFg
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Call me stupid. I have absolutely no idea what you are just saying.
Seriously. I'm giving myself a headache here trying to figure it out.
I need a little help connecting the dots here. Anything you can do
would be greatly appreciated. Now my head's starting to get hot. Holy
shit. Hurry, please.
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No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Call me stupid. I have absolutely no idea what you are just saying.
Perhaps when you get bthis problem with your head fixed, maybe your
reading comprehension will improve again... hopefully.

Take care, maybe get some rest, my friend.

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No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
Call me stupid. I have absolutely no idea what you are just saying.
Perhaps when you get bthis problem with your head fixed, maybe your
reading comprehension will improve again... hopefully.
Take care, maybe get some rest, my friend.
You could insult my reading comprehension and make insincere
references to my very real very serious neurological issue, or you
could take the time to explain yourself to someone who genuinely
doesn't understand what you meant. Life is full of tough choices. Of
course, some are obviously tougher than others.
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You could insult my reading comprehension and make insincere
references to my very real very serious neurological issue, or you
could take the time to explain yourself to someone who genuinely
doesn't understand what you meant. Life is full of tough choices. Of
course, some are obviously tougher than others.
Okay, I just assumed you were trying to insult me, since I'm non-
plussed that anyone would or could be confused by what I wrote.

If you really don't understand what I meant in those two senetences,
then I suppose I could explain.

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You could insult my reading comprehension and make insincere
references to my very real very serious neurological issue, or you
could take the time to explain yourself to someone who genuinely
doesn't understand what you meant. Life is full of tough choices. Of
course, some are obviously tougher than others.
Okay, I just assumed you were trying to insult me, since I'm non-
plussed that anyone would or could be confused by what I wrote.
If you really don't understand what I meant in those two senetences,
then I suppose I could explain.
I really don't care what the fuck you do, Will. Explan. Don't explain.
Whatever. To assume that I was trying to insult you is paranoid
thinking. It's insulting, not to mention just plain nutso. Fuck you.
I'm going to bed. You can apologize tomorrow. And it better be a damn
good one if you want to keep a friend, asshole.
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I really don't care what the fuck you do, Will. Explan. Don't explain.
Whatever. To assume that I was trying to insult you is paranoid
thinking. It's insulting, not to mention just plain nutso. Fuck you.
I'm going to bed. You can apologize tomorrow. And it better be a damn
good one if you want to keep a friend, asshole.
Wow.

Yes, I apologize... I had no idea you were so sensitive about all
this, get some rest and here's hoping you wake up back to normal again
in the morning, my friend.

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I really don't care what the fuck you do, Will. Explan. Don't explain.
Whatever. To assume that I was trying to insult you is paranoid
thinking. It's insulting, not to mention just plain nutso. Fuck you.
I'm going to bed. You can apologize tomorrow. And it better be a damn
good one if you want to keep a friend, asshole.
Wow.
Yes, I apologize... I had no idea you were so sensitive about all
this, get some rest and here's hoping you wake up back to normal again
in the morning, my friend.
I don't try to insult people. I'm not that subtle. If I insult you,
you know damn well you've been insulted. There's no mistaking my
insults. If I say I don't understand something you said, that doesn't
mean either of us are stupid. I have severe bilateral tinnitus. I
don't hear so good. Same goes for how I read. Sometimes I don't read
so good. If I ask you to explain something, don't get all pissy and
repeat yourself. Just assume I didn't hear you correctly the first
time.
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You could insult my reading comprehension and make insincere
references to my very real very serious neurological issue, or you
could take the time to explain yourself to someone who genuinely
doesn't understand what you meant. Life is full of tough choices. Of
course, some are obviously tougher than others.
Okay, I just assumed you were trying to insult me, since I'm non-
plussed that anyone would or could be confused by what I wrote.
If you really don't understand what I meant in those two senetences,
then I suppose I could explain.
I really don't understand what you meant. Please explain. It could
be that Corey and I are both dumbasses, unable to comprehend what we
read. I doubt it. It has been my experience that when the audience
does not understand the presentation, the fault lies with individual
presenting the information.
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You could insult my reading comprehension and make insincere
references to my very real very serious neurological issue, or you
could take the time to explain yourself to someone who genuinely
doesn't understand what you meant. Life is full of tough choices. Of
course, some are obviously tougher than others.
Okay, I just assumed you were trying to insult me, since I'm non-
plussed that anyone would or could be confused by what I wrote.
If you really don't understand what I meant in those two senetences,
then I suppose I could explain.
I really don't understand what you meant.  Please explain.  It could
be that Corey and I are both dumbasses, unable to comprehend what we
read.  I doubt it.  It has been my experience that when the audience
does not understand the presentation, the fault lies with individual
presenting the information.
Try to not think in terms of personal fault, or blame. Look up
violinist Josh Bell and the sociological experiment he and the
Washington Post conducted in the DC subway. There is no denying Bell's
musical genius, but when playing in a busy subway station, his
audience didn't understand or appreciate the presentation. Who is at
fault? Everybody should be sorry for, and repent every moment in their
respective lives that went wholly unappreciated. Seize each moment as
if it is your last, and revel in it. Whatever you do, enjoy the music.
Then make your own joyful noise.
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I really don't understand what you meant. Please explain. It could
be that Corey and I are both dumbasses, unable to comprehend
Okay, try reading it again then, maybe:

<snip for focus>
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"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound
<snip for focus>
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No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
...And then point out what part of "PJR is a jealous Brit Moron" you
don't understand.

Okay, Fred... your move.

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on bass. This version is Brian Mallard, Gene Woolfolk Jr & Jack Snipe
on all instruments, my poem & vocal, obviously...
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Post by Fred Hall
I really don't understand what you meant. Please explain. It could
be that Corey and I are both dumbasses, unable to comprehend
<snip for focus>
Post by Fred Hall
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound
<snip for focus>
Post by Fred Hall
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
...And then point out what part of "PJR is a jealous Brit Moron" you
don't understand.
Okay, Fred... your move.
Thanks for the explanation, but I didn't get the sense PJR was jealous
of anything. He did make a reference to ' beat morons' being able to
to read Pound, but he he did not state that *all* beats were unable to
read Pound.

Okay, Will...your move
Corey
2012-04-10 08:34:45 UTC
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I really don't understand what you meant.  Please explain.  It could
be that Corey and I are both dumbasses, unable to comprehend
<snip for focus>
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound
<snip for focus>
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
...And then point out what part of "PJR is a jealous Brit Moron" you
don't understand.
Okay, Fred... your move.
Thanks for the explanation, but I didn't get the sense PJR was jealous
of anything.  He did make a reference to ' beat morons' being able to
to read Pound, but he he did not state that *all* beats were unable to
read Pound.
Okay, Will...your move
I understand chess well enough that I can watch a game progress and
appreciate each player's advances. Checkers eludes me for some reason.
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Post by Fred Hall
What does PJR have to do with WWII?
Or the Revolutionary War?
Fine
Get it now?

Good.

If not, try reading it again then, maybe:

<snip for focus>
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Post by Fred Hall
"Reading Ezra Pound" - as if any "beat" moron would know how to.
I suppose if there are beats who don't know how to read Pound
<snip for focus>
No, that's just another of PJR's many mistakes, this one
"underestimating the enemy".
Same reason the Brits lost the Revolutionary War and have needed help
from the United States ever since... just sayin'.
...And then point out what part of "PJR is a jealous Brit Moron" you don't
understand.
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Thanks for the explanation, but I didn't get the sense PJR was jealous
of anything.
PJR has a pattern of showing similar jealousy of and for the works (& fame)
of quite a few poets who are better poets than he could ever hope to be,
right offhand I can remember him demstrating this over Ginsberg, Dickinson,
Cohen, Hammes... and now the master poet Ferlinghetti.

So, you may not agree but I have my opinion and you have yours on the
matter, obviously.
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2012-04-10 03:50:28 UTC
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Post by Fred Hall
Thanks for the explanation, but I didn't get the sense PJR was jealous
of anything.
PJR has a pattern of showing similar jealousy of and for the works (& fame)
of quite a few poets who are better poets than he could ever hope to be,
right offhand I can remember him demstrating this over Ginsberg, Dickinson,
Cohen, Hammes... and now the master poet Ferlinghetti.
So, you may not agree but I have my opinion and you have yours on the
matter, obviously.
Yes, we do. But, PJR has always explained the reasons he dislikes
certain poets. Constructive criticism. Isn't that what these groups
are for? It is not written into the US Constitution that one must bow
down before the greatness of Ginsberg, Ferlinghetti, or, for that
matter, Dickinson. (In case you haven't noticed, I despise Dickinson's
poetry. In college, if I required to write about Dickinson, I
invariably received a poor grade)

So, do you dislike Pound?

Discuss
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2012-04-10 09:24:18 UTC
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:38:04 -0400, "Will Dockery"
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Post by Fred Hall
Thanks for the explanation, but I didn't get the sense PJR was jealous
of anything.
PJR has a pattern of showing similar jealousy of and for the works (& fame)
of quite a few poets who are better poets than he could ever hope to be,
right offhand I can remember him demstrating this over Ginsberg, Dickinson,
Cohen, Hammes... and now the master poet Ferlinghetti.
So, you may not agree but I have my opinion and you have yours on the
matter, obviously.
Yes, we do.  But, PJR has always explained the reasons he dislikes
certain poets.  Constructive criticism.  Isn't that what these groups
are for?  It is not written into the US Constitution that one must bow
down before the greatness of Ginsberg, Ferlinghetti, or, for that
matter, Dickinson. (In case you haven't noticed, I despise Dickinson's
poetry.  In college, if I required to write about Dickinson, I
invariably received a poor grade)
So, do you dislike Pound?
Discuss
OMG, LOL! You are truly laughable, Fred. Get over yourself and your
hero worship of PJR. He's nothing but an elitist fop who constantly
compares himself to the likes of certain poets of whom he is envious.
Your stated opinion of Dickinson is particularly revelatory. Of your
current sex life, if nothing else. Do your own homework.
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2012-04-12 19:07:08 UTC
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Constructive criticism. Isn't that what these groups are for?
You must be new here.
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| φύλλα τὰ μέν τ' ἄνεμος χαμάδις χέει, ἄλλα δέ θ' ὕλη
| τηλεθόωσα φύει, ἔαρος δ' ἐπιγίγνεται ὥρη·
| ὣς ἀνδρῶν γενεὴ ἡ μὲν φύει ἡ δ' ἀπολήγει. (Homer)
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:38:04 -0400, "Will Dockery"
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Fred Hall
Thanks for the explanation, but I didn't get the sense PJR was jealous
of anything.
PJR has a pattern of showing similar jealousy of and for the works (& fame)
of quite a few poets who are better poets than he could ever hope to be,
right offhand I can remember him demstrating this over Ginsberg, Dickinson,
Cohen, Hammes... and now the master poetFerlinghetti.
So, you may not agree but I have my opinion and you have yours on the
matter, obviously.
Yes, we do.  But, PJR has always explained the reasons he dislikes
certain poets.
Oh, sure: He doesn't like Ginsberg because (he says) Ginsberg's a
"turd" and a "pedophile". He doesn't like Dickinson because (he says)
she was "looney" and a "dyke". He doesn't like Whitman, or Poe, or
Longfellow, because all their poems are "crap."
Post by Fred Hall
Constructive criticism.
Just what do you think is "constructive" about any of that?
Post by Fred Hall
 Isn't that what these groups
are for?
No, I don't think the alt. poetry groups are not for dumping on
whomever you dislike. There are plenty of groups -- alt.usenet.kooks,
alt.fucknozzles, and the like -- for that sort of behavior.
Post by Fred Hall
It is not written into the US Constitution that one must bow
down before the greatness of Ginsberg,Ferlinghetti, or, for that
matter, Dickinson.
Or immature trolls like ~PJ Ross~, either. So why are you always
kneeling to him?
Post by Fred Hall
(In case you haven't noticed, I despise Dickinson's
poetry.
I notice you liked at least some Ginsberg, though, until ~PJ~ told you
not to; then you began calling him a pedophile, too. Which, of course,
is what's next for Ferlinghetti, right?
Post by Fred Hall
In college, if I required to write about Dickinson, I
invariably received a poor grade)
Lots of people don't like Dickinson. Perhaps 10% or less of what she
wrote was worth publishing (same as any almost any other poet) - if
her heirs had limited themselves to publishing that 10% or less, she'd
probably have a much better reputation. Unfortunately, for reasons of
historical accident, her every word has been published, and the good
stuff is consequently hard to find. But that's not her fault, and it
doesn't mean the good stuff doesn't exist.
Post by Fred Hall
So, do you dislike Pound?
Discuss
Pound is someone who could have benefitted from the "10% or less" rule
even more than Dickinson. In his case, though, it was his fault, as he
wasn't dead at the time.
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So, do you dislike Pound?
No, in spite of the fact that Ezra Pound was a bugfuck crazy Anti-Semite,
I've often found him to be often amusing, and an interesting storyteller,
here's a post I made about Pound a number of years ago:

http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-the-will-dockery-archives-part-1-a-102902

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From: Will Dockery
Subject: Ezra Pound: the cold coffee incident
Date: 2004-09-02 10:49:38 PST

"I had withdrawn in forest and my song
Was swallowed up in leaves..."
-Robert Frost

[from the review of "A Boy's Will" by Robert Frost]:

"I remember that I was canoeing and thirsty and I put into a shanty for
water and found a man who had no water and gave me cold coffee instead.
And he didn't understand it, he was from a minor city and he "just set
there watchin' the river" and didn't "seem to want to go back," and he
didn't care for anything else. and so I presume he entered into Anunda.
And I remember Joseph Campbell telling me of meeting a man on a
desolate waste of bogs, and he said to him, "it's rather dull here";
and the man said,

"Faith, ye can sit on a middan and dream stars."

And that is the essence of folk poetry with distinction between America
and Ireland. And Frost's book reminded me of these things..."
-Ezra Pound [excerpted from "Into my Own" by John Evangelest Walsh.]
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So, do you dislike Pound?
No, in spite of the fact that Ezra Pound was a bugfuck crazy Anti-Semite,
I've often found him to be often amusing, and an interesting storyteller,
Glad you cleared that up
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From: Will Dockery
Subject: Ezra Pound: the cold coffee incident
Date: 2004-09-02 10:49:38 PST
"I had withdrawn in forest and my song
Was swallowed up in leaves..."
-Robert Frost
"I remember that I was canoeing and thirsty and I put into a shanty for
water and found a man who had no water and gave me cold coffee instead.
And he didn't understand it, he was from a minor city and he "just set
there watchin' the river" and didn't "seem to want to go back," and he
didn't care for anything else. and so I presume he entered into Anunda.
And I remember Joseph Campbell telling me of meeting a man on a
desolate waste of bogs, and he said to him, "it's rather dull here";
and the man said,
"Faith, ye can sit on a middan and dream stars."
And that is the essence of folk poetry with distinction between America
and Ireland. And Frost's book reminded me of these things..."
-Ezra Pound [excerpted from "Into my Own" by John Evangelest Walsh.]
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So, do you dislike Pound?
No, in spite of the fact that Ezra Pound was a bugfuck crazy Anti-Semite,
I've often found him to be often amusing, and an interesting storyteller,
Glad you cleared that up
No problem.
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http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-the-will-dockery-archives-p...
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Subject: Ezra Pound: the cold coffee incident
Date: 2004-09-02 10:49:38 PST
"I had withdrawn in forest and my song
Was swallowed up in leaves..."
-Robert Frost
"I remember that I was canoeing and thirsty and I put into a shanty for
water and found a man who had no water and gave me cold coffee instead.
And he didn't understand it, he was from a minor city and he "just set
there watchin' the river" and didn't "seem to want to go back," and he
didn't care for anything else. and so I presume he entered into Anunda.
And I remember Joseph Campbell telling me of meeting a man on a
desolate waste of bogs, and he said to him, "it's rather dull here";
and the man said,
"Faith, ye can sit on a middan and dream stars."
And that is the essence of folk poetry with distinction between America
and Ireland. And Frost's book reminded me of these things..."
-Ezra Pound [excerpted from "Into my Own" by John Evangelest Walsh.]
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So, do you dislike Pound?
No, in spite of the fact that Ezra Pound was a bugfuck crazy Anti-Semite,
I've often found him to be often amusing, and an interesting storyteller,
here's a post I made about Pound a number of years ago:

http://www.myforumabout.com/art/poetry/re-the-will-dockery-archives-part-1-a-102902

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From: Will Dockery
Subject: Ezra Pound: the cold coffee incident
Date: 2004-09-02 10:49:38 PST

"I had withdrawn in forest and my song
Was swallowed up in leaves..."
-Robert Frost

[from the review of "A Boy's Will" by Robert Frost]:

"I remember that I was canoeing and thirsty and I put into a shanty for
water and found a man who had no water and gave me cold coffee instead.
And he didn't understand it, he was from a minor city and he "just set
there watchin' the river" and didn't "seem to want to go back," and he
didn't care for anything else. and so I presume he entered into Anunda.
And I remember Joseph Campbell telling me of meeting a man on a
desolate waste of bogs, and he said to him, "it's rather dull here";
and the man said,

"Faith, ye can sit on a middan and dream stars."

And that is the essence of folk poetry with distinction between America
and Ireland. And Frost's book reminded me of these things..."
-Ezra Pound [excerpted from "Into my Own" by John Evangelest Walsh.]
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In honor of Pound and live broadcasts.
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http://youtu.be/kfXtuSwiDkE
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Baseball Canto
Back on topic, this is an excellent poem from the master poet Lawrence
Ferlinghetti.

Thanks for finding it, Fred.

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