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Goodnight Sweet Prince: Hunter Thompson 1937-2005
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Mook23
2005-02-21 07:41:29 UTC
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Too choked up for words. It looks like he shot himself. I can't say I
blame him; this is a dark time to be alive.

We should all honour the memory of this great man in our own way.
f***@yahoo.com
2005-02-23 07:07:46 UTC
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Too choked up for words. It looks like he shot himself. I can't say I
blame him; this is a dark time to be alive.
We should all honour the memory of this great man in our own way.
Fucken right. There'll never be another quite like our dear old Uncle
Duke.

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Jim (Guitar Centre Records)
2005-02-23 12:43:50 UTC
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People who kill themselves do so because they are ill, not because of the
situation in the world. I am truly sorry for anyone who takes their own
life. It is not a selfish act as some people would have us believe. It is,
in the final analysis, a supreme act of self-preservation: when it is
impossible to be yourself in this world any more the only way to preserve
that self is to take it into the next world. It's a perfectly logical but
terrifying conclusion for any human to bring themselves to. There but for
the grace of God ...

Rest in peace, Hunter.
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Too choked up for words. It looks like he shot himself. I can't say
I
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blame him; this is a dark time to be alive.
We should all honour the memory of this great man in our own way.
Fucken right. There'll never be another quite like our dear old Uncle
Duke.
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Will Dockery
2005-02-23 12:49:42 UTC
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People who kill themselves do so because they are ill, not because of the
situation in the world. I am truly sorry for anyone who takes their own
life. It is not a selfish act as some people would have us believe. It is,
in the final analysis, a supreme act of self-preservation: when it is
impossible to be yourself in this world any more the only way to preserve
that self is to take it into the next world. It's a perfectly
logical but
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terrifying conclusion for any human to bring themselves to. There but for
the grace of God ...
Rest in peace, Hunter.
Absolutely. God forbid either of us have to someday stand *inside those
shoes*. The Duke is on a new level.

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Too choked up for words. It looks like he shot himself. I can't say
I
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blame him; this is a dark time to be alive.
We should all honour the memory of this great man in our own way.
Fucken right. There'll never be another quite like our dear old Uncle
Duke.
---
http://www.ypsiarbor.com/soho.htm
j***@yahoo.co.uk
2005-02-23 12:59:09 UTC
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beg to differ with will and jim.

the torment and suffering left behind for family and friends (and
witnesses if in front of train, off a block) is lifelong.
Will Dockery
2005-02-23 13:09:17 UTC
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beg to differ with will and jim.
the torment and suffering left behind for family and friends (and
witnesses if in front of train, off a block) is lifelong.
I actually know this to be a fact, as well.

Katherine's brother, Tracy Harley, was proclaimed by the coroner on Dec
27 1986 to have commited suicide by a shotgun blast to the chest.

Never mind that the big rifle was not logically able to be fired "solo"
to that position, Tracy being quite a small guy [thus one of his
monikers used in jest, "White Prince"] and never mind that he's run up
wuite a substantial drug bill over the holidays and before, and in fact
was the last person remaining at the party he'd thrown on Christmas
night in his loft above the Hardware store he ran in downtown
Shadowville.

Anyway, his death haunts the family to this day, and years later
Katherine went to *her* grave fighting deadly brain cancer morning her
brother,her lifelong protector, my fellow poet warrior, Tracy Harley
[1958-1986].

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Jim (Guitar Centre Records)
2005-02-23 13:32:49 UTC
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The suffering to friends and relatives is immense. But can you really expect
someone to stay in screaming pain every day just to avoid you having some
sadness?
'Tears or not it's too much to ask,' as the poet said.

Jim
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beg to differ with will and jim.
the torment and suffering left behind for family and friends (and
witnesses if in front of train, off a block) is lifelong.
Will Dockery
2005-02-23 14:27:22 UTC
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The suffering to friends and relatives is immense. But can you really expect
someone to stay in screaming pain every day just to avoid you having some
sadness?
'Tears or not it's too much to ask,' as the poet said.
Jim
Well, bottom line is a man's gotta do what he's gotta do, to use an
appropriate cliche`.

Zorro's Medicine Show [Will Dockery]:
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beg to differ with will and jim.
the torment and suffering left behind for family and friends (and
witnesses if in front of train, off a block) is lifelong.
m***@hotmail.com
2005-02-23 22:42:13 UTC
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beg to differ with will and jim.
the torment and suffering left behind for family and friends (and
witnesses if in front of train, off a block) is lifelong.
Hunter was on the phone with wife when he pulled the trigger says
Alexander Cockburn:

"Thompson's Boston lawyer George Tobia Jr told the Globe the
67-year-old author sat in his kitchen Sunday afternoon in his home in
Woody Creek, Colo., stuck a .45-caliber handgun in his mouth, and
killed himself while his wife listened on the phone and his son and
daughter-in-law were in another room of his house. His wife had no idea
what had happened until she returned home later."

"Kerouac ended sadly at 47. As Abbey nastily put it, "Jack Kerouac,
like a sick refrigerator, worked too hard at keeping cool and died on
his mama's lap from alcohol and infantilism." Abbey himself passed
gloriously at 62, carried from the hospital by his pals to die at his
own pace without tubes dripping brief reprieves into his veins, then
buried in the desert without the sanction of the state.

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn02232005.html
Will Dockery
2005-02-23 20:13:01 UTC
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"Fiction is based on reality unless you're a fairy-tale artist.
You
have to get your knowledge of life from somewhere. You have to know
the material you're writing about before you alter it."
Hunter S. Thompson
July 18, 1937 - February 20, 2005
To a new level.

Good luck on your journey, beloved Uncle Duke.

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Will Dockery
2012-11-27 13:28:02 UTC
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"Fiction is based on reality unless you're a fairy-tale artist.
You
have to get your knowledge of life from somewhere. You have to know
the material you're writing about before you alter it."
Hunter S. Thompson
July 18, 1937 - February 20, 2005
This one's a keeper... HST was so much of the Kerouac school.
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To a new level.
Good luck on your journey, beloved Uncle Duke.
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whyzard
2005-02-24 01:10:10 UTC
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People who kill themselves do so because they are ill,
They are sick of looking at fucking life.
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not because of the
situation in the world. I am truly sorry for anyone who takes their own
life. It is not a selfish act as some people would have us believe. It is,
in the final analysis, a supreme act of self-preservation: when it is
impossible to be yourself in this world any more the only way to preserve
that self is to take it into the next world. It's a perfectly
logical but
Post by Jim (Guitar Centre Records)
terrifying conclusion for any human to bring themselves to. There but for
the grace of God ...
Rest in peace, Hunter.
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Post by Mook23
Too choked up for words. It looks like he shot himself. I can't say
I
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blame him; this is a dark time to be alive.
We should all honour the memory of this great man in our own way.
Fucken right. There'll never be another quite like our dear old Uncle
Duke.
---
http://www.ypsiarbor.com/soho.htm
Will Dockery
2005-02-24 06:13:07 UTC
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People who kill themselves do so because they are ill,
They are sick of looking at fucking life.
And they tire of walking down the streets that are dead.

Zorro's Medicine Show [Will Dockery]:
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not because of the
situation in the world. I am truly sorry for anyone who takes their
own
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life. It is not a selfish act as some people would have us
believe.
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It is,
Post by Jim (Guitar Centre Records)
in the final analysis, a supreme act of self-preservation: when it is
impossible to be yourself in this world any more the only way to
preserve
Post by Jim (Guitar Centre Records)
that self is to take it into the next world. It's a perfectly
logical but
Post by Jim (Guitar Centre Records)
terrifying conclusion for any human to bring themselves to. There
but for
Post by Jim (Guitar Centre Records)
the grace of God ...
Rest in peace, Hunter.
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Too choked up for words. It looks like he shot himself. I
can't
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say
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I
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blame him; this is a dark time to be alive.
We should all honour the memory of this great man in our own way.
Fucken right. There'll never be another quite like our dear old
Uncle
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Duke.
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Biljo White
2005-02-24 15:48:45 UTC
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And they tire of walking down the streets that are dead.
Especially if they are delivering pizzas on those streets.
Will Dockery
2005-02-24 16:47:59 UTC
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And they tire of walking down the streets that are dead.
Especially if they are delivering pizzas on those streets.
Less traffic, better faster deliveries, Biljo.

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Leisha
2005-02-24 17:34:22 UTC
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People who kill themselves do so because they are ill,
They are sick of looking at fucking life.
And they tire of walking down the streets that are dead.
Eloquent.

It hurts other people too much to kill oneself. It harms them,
especially children, who never recover when a parent commits suicide.
It's selfish and cowardly. Take yourself into the next life because you
can't be who you want to be in this one? Who can? Change. Change, grow,
live, learn. Choose life.

Suicide is not romantic. Suicide is raw and ugly. Goodbye, Hunter.

Leisha
Will Dockery
2005-02-24 17:46:35 UTC
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People who kill themselves do so because they are ill,
They are sick of looking at fucking life.
And they tire of walking down the streets that are dead.
Eloquent.
It hurts other people too much to kill oneself. It harms them,
especially children, who never recover when a parent commits suicide.
It's selfish and cowardly. Take yourself into the next life because you
can't be who you want to be in this one? Who can? Change. Change, grow,
live, learn. Choose life.
Suicide is not romantic. Suicide is raw and ugly. Goodbye, Hunter.
Leisha
Yeah, the one actual suicide I was intimately connected to, the 1986
death of my brother-in-law Tracy Harley, haunts his family to this
day... in fact, my ex-wife Katherine grieved for her brother up until
her own death, last year.

There's more, though. Suicide sometimes has a contageous effect...
Tracy's father also went out this way when Tracy and his sisters were
small children.

My option? Considered the Jim Morrison route a few times: fake the
death, get the Hell out of Dodge, and take a shot at being reborn, with
principle significant others in on the joke, of course.

Exile in some faraway land is always a neat trick, if it can be pulled
off. In Hunter's case, though, sickness and a loss of his former Mojo
was just too much to bear, I feel.

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moon is atrocious and every sun bitter."
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Jane Asher's Vagina
2005-02-24 18:55:36 UTC
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There's more, though. Suicide sometimes has a contageous effect...
Tracy's father also went out this way when Tracy and his sisters were
small children.
Two aunts, one uncle, one granny, one grandpa, two BIL's, all by suicide.
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My option? Considered the Jim Morrison route a few times: fake the
death, get the Hell out of Dodge, and take a shot at being reborn, with
principle significant others in on the joke, of course.
Exile in some faraway land is always a neat trick, if it can be pulled
off.
Know or speculate?
Will Dockery
2005-02-24 19:00:41 UTC
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There's more, though. Suicide sometimes has a contageous effect...
Tracy's father also went out this way when Tracy and his sisters were
small children.
Two aunts, one uncle, one granny, one grandpa, two BIL's, all by suicide.
Post by Will Dockery
My option? Considered the Jim Morrison route a few times: fake the
death, get the Hell out of Dodge, and take a shot at being reborn, with
principle significant others in on the joke, of course.
Exile in some faraway land is always a neat trick, if it can be pulled
off.
Know or speculate?
At this point, even Florida would suffice.

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2005-02-24 19:51:20 UTC
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My option? Considered the Jim Morrison route a few times: fake the
death, get the Hell out of Dodge, and take a shot at being reborn,
with
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principle significant others in on the joke, of course.
Exile in some faraway land is always a neat trick, if it can be
pulled
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off.
Know or speculate?
At this point, even Florida would suffice.
Know or speculate about Jim's fake death?
Will Dockery
2005-02-24 20:27:11 UTC
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My option? Considered the Jim Morrison route a few times: fake the
death, get the Hell out of Dodge, and take a shot at being
reborn,
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with
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principle significant others in on the joke, of course.
Exile in some faraway land is always a neat trick, if it can be
pulled
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off.
Know or speculate?
At this point, even Florida would suffice.
Know or speculate about Jim's fake death?
Oh! I don't think you've seen the fantastic news! Here 'tis, JDM is
*alive!*:

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Will Dockery
2012-11-27 13:24:50 UTC
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People who kill themselves do so because they are ill,
They are sick of looking at fucking life.
And they tire of walking down the streets that are dead.
Eloquent.
It hurts other people too much to kill oneself. It harms them,
especially children, who never recover when a parent commits suicide.
It's selfish and cowardly. Take yourself into the next life because you
can't be who you want to be in this one? Who can? Change. Change, grow,
live, learn. Choose life.
Suicide is not romantic. Suicide is raw and ugly. Goodbye, Hunter.
Leisha
It leaves loose ends that can never be resolved... even decades later.
Red Rocket
2005-02-23 17:50:30 UTC
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Too choked up for words. It looks like he shot himself. I can't say
I
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blame him; this is a dark time to be alive.
We should all honour the memory of this great man in our own way.
Fucken right. There'll never be another quite like our dear old Uncle
i'm pretty sure it's "Fucking" right.
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Duke.
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Will Dockery
2005-02-23 17:57:51 UTC
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Too choked up for words. It looks like he shot himself. I can't say
I
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blame him; this is a dark time to be alive.
We should all honour the memory of this great man in our own way.
Fucken right. There'll never be another quite like our dear old Uncle
i'm pretty sure it's "Fucking" right.
Ah, so you're not in the Kabol, I assume? 'Tis a good thing.

But, it truly *is* "Fucken".
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Duke.
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